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Re: Devastation on Publication of the News of the World Article
« Reply #60 on: September 26, 2014, 08:48:PM »
Adam I think if anyone really knew Sheila and her life it was her husband Colin although they were divorced he knew June,Ralph and Jeremy.  He did say in the book Sheila hated her Mother I know this is a strong word but I am just repeating Colin Sheila would have talked to him about her feelings she really loved Ralph and her twins and had she shot herself she would have died with her babies.  He made some great points one he said Ralph would not have allowed a loaded rifle to be left out he would have put it away mainly because of the boys. Jeremy was at Sheila's flat and Jeremy was telling Colin about the nude photo's he had of Sheila how hurtful and disrespectful was that to a man who had just lost his twins and their Mother.  I cannot see what Colin would have to gain by not telling the truth and fabricating things Jeremy sent him some dreadful cruel letters he has put them in the book.  From what I am reading Jeremy Bamber had two sides to him.  Will keep you up to date.

Were the letters sent after conviction ?

Are you able to copy any onto the forum ? If not too long.
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Re: Devastation on Publication of the News of the World Article
« Reply #61 on: September 26, 2014, 08:50:PM »
I fear that CC wasn't without another side too. There must have been something that gave reason for June not liking him. She seemed shrewd in that respect,as she was right about JM being a harlot.

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Re: Devastation on Publication of the News of the World Article
« Reply #62 on: September 26, 2014, 08:54:PM »
Adam I think if anyone really knew Sheila and her life it was her husband Colin although they were divorced he knew June,Ralph and Jeremy.  He did say in the book Sheila hated her Mother I know this is a strong word but I am just repeating Colin Sheila would have talked to him about her feelings she really loved Ralph and her twins and had she shot herself she would have died with her babies.  He made some great points one he said Ralph would not have allowed a loaded rifle to be left out he would have put it away mainly because of the boys. Jeremy was at Sheila's flat and Jeremy was telling Colin about the nude photo's he had of Sheila how hurtful and disrespectful was that to a man who had just lost his twins and their Mother.  I cannot see what Colin would have to gain by not telling the truth and fabricating things Jeremy sent him some dreadful cruel letters he has put them in the book.  From what I am reading Jeremy Bamber had two sides to him.  Will keep you up to date.

Maybe that was too difficult for her.
In any case, I find it a very odd spot for Sheila to have died in - her parents“ bedroom. Why would Jeremy pick that place? Why not by the twins, in her own room or in the corridor? To get to that spot where she was found, you would either have to go through the room with the dead bodies of poor Nicholas and Daniel - or, literally, step over the dead and disfigured body of June.
Why would Jeremy risk upsetting her to no end and bring the situation out of control?
Unless he just happened upon her there as Harters claims - but that is not usually discussed.

Further, I have a big problem with the way Jeremy would have had to be positioned to be able to shoot Sheila as it is claimed she was shot.

That whole scene in the bedroom is always what I keep coming back to, and the main reason for my doubts.

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Re: Devastation on Publication of the News of the World Article
« Reply #63 on: September 26, 2014, 09:02:PM »
Maybe that was too difficult for her.
In any case, I find it a very odd spot for Sheila to have died in - her parents“ bedroom. Why would Jeremy pick that place? Why not by the twins, in her own room or in the corridor? To get to that spot where she was found, you would either have to go through the room with the dead bodies of poor Nicholas and Daniel - or, literally, step over the dead and disfigured body of June.
Why would Jeremy risk upsetting her to no end and bring the situation out of control?
Unless he just happened upon her there as Harters claims - but that is not usually discussed.

Further, I have a big problem with the way Jeremy would have had to be positioned to be able to shoot Sheila as it is claimed she was shot.

That whole scene in the bedroom is always what I keep coming back to, and the main reason for my doubts.

If that is what CC says, then everyone has to take his word for it.

Either Jeremy made a location mistake in carrying/leading Sheila to the main bedroom.

Or Sheila woke and retreated to the corner after seeing a man with a rifle.
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Re: Devastation on Publication of the News of the World Article
« Reply #64 on: September 26, 2014, 09:02:PM »
Alias don't think she would have found it difficult if she had just shot her twins to keep them safe from evil.Have you thought yes I guess you have that Jeremy had help with these horrendous murders. I am convinced he did trying to figure out how he did this but as yet just playing with ideas.

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Re: Devastation on Publication of the News of the World Article
« Reply #65 on: September 26, 2014, 09:05:PM »
Alias don't think she would have found it difficult if she had just shot her twins to keep them safe from evil.Have you thought yes I guess you have that Jeremy had help with these horrendous murders. I am convinced he did trying to figure out how he did this but as yet just playing with ideas.

Why would he need help in executing five sleeping people ( with a silencer). Of which two were women & two were 6 six year old.
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Re: Devastation on Publication of the News of the World Article
« Reply #66 on: September 26, 2014, 09:05:PM »
Alias don't think she would have found it difficult if she had just shot her twins to keep them safe from evil.Have you thought yes I guess you have that Jeremy had help with these horrendous murders. I am convinced he did trying to figure out how he did this but as yet just playing with ideas.

You know I think he might have had help if he carried out the murders.

I think Sheila might have done this "for June", and thus chose the bedroom to die in - with the bible. Somehos that seems too contrived and complicated for Jeremy to have come up with.

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Re: Devastation on Publication of the News of the World Article
« Reply #67 on: September 26, 2014, 09:08:PM »
Why would he need help in executing five sleeping people ( with a silencer). Of which two were women & two were 6 six year old.

You are talking about "carrying" Sheila. Adam, we can walk, run, scream, we can even use a telephone - and shoot guns!

I find your remarks about women rather offensive, Adam.

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Re: Devastation on Publication of the News of the World Article
« Reply #68 on: September 26, 2014, 09:11:PM »
Why would he need help in executing five sleeping people ( with a silencer). Of which two were women & two were 6 six year old.

well your the expert.

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Re: Devastation on Publication of the News of the World Article
« Reply #69 on: September 26, 2014, 09:13:PM »
You are talking about "carrying" Sheila. Adam, we can walk, run, scream, we can even use a telephone - and shoot guns!

I find your remarks about women rather offensive, Adam.

We are talking about 61 year old June and recovering anorexic Sheila. Not the Williams sisters.
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Re: Devastation on Publication of the News of the World Article
« Reply #70 on: September 26, 2014, 09:14:PM »
We are talking about 61 year old June and recovering anorexic Sheila. Not the Williams sisters.



Didn't the pathologist refer to Sheila as "a well nourished female"?

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Re: Devastation on Publication of the News of the World Article
« Reply #71 on: September 26, 2014, 09:15:PM »
We are talking about 61 year old June and recovering anorexic Sheila. Not the Williams sisters.
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Sheila was described in the autopsy report that she was "a well nourished female."

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Re: Devastation on Publication of the News of the World Article
« Reply #72 on: September 26, 2014, 09:16:PM »
April!  ;D

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Re: Devastation on Publication of the News of the World Article
« Reply #73 on: September 26, 2014, 09:18:PM »
Adam you may have misunderstood I said I thought he had help not that he needed help big difference. Maybe two people wanted the family dead think about that.

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Re: Devastation on Publication of the News of the World Article
« Reply #74 on: September 26, 2014, 09:25:PM »
Adam you may have misunderstood I said I thought he had help not that he needed help big difference. Maybe two people wanted the family dead think about that.

Do did CC think Jeremy walked to WHF ?
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