A Very Important Question

[Jane]

Bamber and his mate Brett collins had been rooting round Sheila flat loking for money and valuables to tide Bamber over until the wills were sorted out, they found nothing..except the nude pictures of sheila.

 Jeremy and Brett discussed what they should do with their find, Bamber was certain the photographs would prove to be a little gold mine he needed to carry him over the next few months.

They decided the quickest and easiest way to make money from them would be to sell thm to a newspaper, Brett suggested the Sun. Brett already had dealings with one of its reporters. collins rang The sun and asked to speak to Michael Fielder, Fielder had folloewd the WHF story closely.

They arranged a meeting in the Nags Head Pub in Chelmsford.

The three met up and Fielder was amazed at the attitude of the young men "Collins and Bamber turned up and we had a few drinks and a snack" remembered Fielder. "They were sniggering and giggling together like a couple of schoolboys. i asked them about the photographs and Bamber said "oh, they are really good pictures of bambi-with the biggest vibrator you ever saw"

Fielder said "they gave me the impression that the pictures showed bambi doing things to herself with the vibrator, the two men were laughing and sharing in jokes".

But Bamber and Collins went further with their scandalous hints, according to the reporter. "They were trying to give me the impression that Bambi and jereny had been with each other. there was was loads of innuendo about Bamber and his involvment with her. it was all crude suggestiveness and snigger snigger.

the trio discussed the proposed sale for an hour. bamber was asking a price of £20,000 for about twenty topless and nude colour transparencies. "they show everything, right down to the last detail. Tehy are really good pictures" said jeremy. bamber also discussed the possibility of selling unpublished pictures of his parents and murdered nephews, Bamber said he would be looking for a substantial sum and would be prepared to sell his own life story.

Fielder said he was amazed at the complete callousness displayed by bamberand was keen to follow up this incredible turn of events to see where it led. bamber had not brought the photos with him so they made arrangments to meet at Sheilas Morshead mansions flat.

Fielder phoned the Sun and the Editor was of the opinion that Bamber trying to sell nude pictures of his dead sister appalling. he said "tell the b........ to stick his pictures". Editor told fielder to write a story of what bamber had tried to do, Filder id as the editor asked but thinks it was a mistake.Fielder wanted to go along with the pretence of buying them so that he could check they actually existed.

Fielders story on the attempted sale of the pictures by bamber appeared in the next edition of the sun. Discouraged by the failed attempt the pair never got intouch with the sun again.

Michael Fielder reflected on the episode " i have been in this job for 20 yrs and i have seen a lot of terrible crimes, but this one sent chills down my spine. it was really incredibly bad and bamber himself sent a shiver through me when i was talking to him. of course i knew the police wre sure he had done it so i went to the meeting with a certain view of him. i found it amazing that he could be so self assured, arrogant, not caring at all about what had happened.

By the way Fielder DID make a statement to the police about the episode, the police even asked Fielder if he would give evidence in court should he be needed.

Would be great to get hold of that statement. So anyone who says there is no evidence that bamber tried to sell his dead sisters private pictures, well now we know !!!

Adam, the Sun could say what they liked -and usually DO- but it doesn't seem to me that anyone actually clapped eyes on said photos so it was simple for the Sun to play at being aggrieved and altruistic. Their already hideous reputation got steadily worse over the years.

[lookout]

 I have a feeling that those pics had already been seen by a family member before Jeremy saw them.

[Alias]

I have a feeling that those pics had already been seen by a family member before Jeremy saw them.

Can you elaborate?

[lookout]

Can you elaborate?

 




It's something that will remain under wraps for the time being.

[Jane]

It's something that will remain under wraps for the time being.

Are you saying that you believe there were hardcore porny pics of Sheila. There may have been a few of the Playboy type, but from the tenor of the silly, giggly conversation Jeremy and Brett supposedly had with the journo, they were sparking off each other to big up what they supposedly had to offer.

[Caroline]

Are you saying that you believe there were hardcore porny pics of Sheila. There may have been a few of the Playboy type, but from the tenor of the silly, giggly conversation Jeremy and Brett supposedly had with the journo, they were sparking off each other to big up what they supposedly had to offer.

I'm sure Colin describes the pictures in his book and they weren't hardcore.

[lookout]

Are you saying that you believe there were hardcore porny pics of Sheila. There may have been a few of the Playboy type, but from the tenor of the silly, giggly conversation Jeremy and Brett supposedly had with the journo, they were sparking off each other to big up what they supposedly had to offer.

No,nothing like that.

[Mr. Gee]

Bamber and his mate Brett collins had been rooting round Sheila flat loking for money and valuables to tide Bamber over until the wills were sorted out, they found nothing..except the nude pictures of sheila.

 Jeremy and Brett discussed what they should do with their find, Bamber was certain the photographs would prove to be a little gold mine he needed to carry him over the next few months.

They decided the quickest and easiest way to make money from them would be to sell thm to a newspaper, Brett suggested the Sun. Brett already had dealings with one of its reporters. collins rang The sun and asked to speak to Michael Fielder, Fielder had folloewd the WHF story closely.

They arranged a meeting in the Nags Head Pub in Chelmsford.

The three met up and Fielder was amazed at the attitude of the young men "Collins and Bamber turned up and we had a few drinks and a snack" remembered Fielder. "They were sniggering and giggling together like a couple of schoolboys. i asked them about the photographs and Bamber said "oh, they are really good pictures of bambi-with the biggest vibrator you ever saw"

Fielder said "they gave me the impression that the pictures showed bambi doing things to herself with the vibrator, the two men were laughing and sharing in jokes".

But Bamber and Collins went further with their scandalous hints, according to the reporter. "They were trying to give me the impression that Bambi and jereny had been with each other. there was was loads of innuendo about Bamber and his involvment with her. it was all crude suggestiveness and snigger snigger.

the trio discussed the proposed sale for an hour. bamber was asking a price of £20,000 for about twenty topless and nude colour transparencies. "they show everything, right down to the last detail. Tehy are really good pictures" said jeremy. bamber also discussed the possibility of selling unpublished pictures of his parents and murdered nephews, Bamber said he would be looking for a substantial sum and would be prepared to sell his own life story.

Fielder said he was amazed at the complete callousness displayed by bamberand was keen to follow up this incredible turn of events to see where it led. bamber had not brought the photos with him so they made arrangments to meet at Sheilas Morshead mansions flat.

Fielder phoned the Sun and the Editor was of the opinion that Bamber trying to sell nude pictures of his dead sister appalling. he said "tell the b........ to stick his pictures". Editor told fielder to write a story of what bamber had tried to do, Filder id as the editor asked but thinks it was a mistake.Fielder wanted to go along with the pretence of buying them so that he could check they actually existed.

Fielders story on the attempted sale of the pictures by bamber appeared in the next edition of the sun. Discouraged by the failed attempt the pair never got intouch with the sun again.

Michael Fielder reflected on the episode " i have been in this job for 20 yrs and i have seen a lot of terrible crimes, but this one sent chills down my spine. it was really incredibly bad and bamber himself sent a shiver through me when i was talking to him. of course i knew the police wre sure he had done it so i went to the meeting with a certain view of him. i found it amazing that he could be so self assured, arrogant, not caring at all about what had happened.

By the way Fielder DID make a statement to the police about the episode, the police even asked Fielder if he would give evidence in court should he be needed.

Would be great to get hold of that statement. So anyone who says there is no evidence that bamber tried to sell his dead sisters private pictures, well now we know !!!

Adam I am sure that that is a quote from a book but you haven't indicated so. It would be better if you do explain that it is a quote because that way the actual writer of the article would get the credit for it.
I agree that if that is what happened it was a disgusting thing of Bamber and his friend to do. Did Fielder actually get to see the pictures himself, or did he just go by what Bamber and Collins told him?

[Mr. Gee]

Adam, the Sun could say what they liked -and usually DO- but it doesn't seem to me that anyone actually clapped eyes on said photos so it was simple for the Sun to play at being aggrieved and altruistic. Their already hideous reputation got steadily worse over the years.

Kelvin Mckenzie calculated what should be the biggest story. The pictures of Sheila or the fact that it was Bamber who tried to sell them. I was his job as editor to judge what was the biggest scoop. I have not known the Sun to be a particularly moral newspaper.

[susan]

Morning Caroline/april

In the book Colin describes the photo's of Sheila kinda of semi nude but he did say Jeremy said some are much worse but they had been removed from her belongings by Jeremy.  Will have another read and see what was implied about photo's

[Adam]

Morning Caroline/april

In the book Colin describes the photo's of Sheila kinda of semi nude but he did say Jeremy said some are much worse but they had been removed from her belongings by Jeremy.  Will have another read and see what was implied about photo's

Thank you.

Everyone has to accept what CC says. He was not 'apparently' jilted by Jeremy and has no financial motive to 'apparently' lie or frame anyone.

[susan]

Morning Adam  I agree Colin has no reason to distort the truth he is telling it as he knows it.  Jeremy did really turn on him when he was in prison really attacked poor Colin.  As I see it Jeremy was bitter and jealous of Colin who was doing what he had hoped to do.

[Adam]

Morning Adam  I agree Colin has no reason to distort the truth he is telling it as he knows it.  Jeremy did really turn on him when he was in prison really attacked poor Colin.  As I see it Jeremy was bitter and jealous of Colin who was doing what he had hoped to do.

What was CC doing that Jeremy hoped to do ? Apart from living as a free man.

[susan]

Adam Colin was becoming the centre of attention and writers were approaching him to write a book he accused Colin of becoming a cog in the media and writing a nice little book.  The letters really brought out another Jeremy in my eyes you could hear the nasty sarcastic tones to poor Colin and he said when he got his conviction quashed he would get his own back.  He accused Colin of driving Sheila mad leaving her on her own to bring up a family.  I read the letters to be from a very angry jealous Jeremy. 

[Jane]

Morning Caroline/april

In the book Colin describes the photo's of Sheila kinda of semi nude but he did say Jeremy said some are much worse but they had been removed from her belongings by Jeremy.  Will have another read and see what was implied about photo's

Susan, this would bear out my own theory, both that the photos were nowhere NEAR as graphic as Jeremy and Brett were trying to paint them as being AND they were both behaving like a pair of silly schoolboys playing a prank. Sadly they were adults behaving like prize sh-one-ts.