Simon McKay No Longer Representing Jeremy

[tyler]

Do we know why ngb? For I remember him saying that he was in for the long haul?

Probably due to the CT interfering again?

[susan]

Hello tyler or maybe Simon Mackay has left Jeremy for reasons unknown to any of us and I guess we will never know

[JackiePreece]

Hello tyler or maybe Simon Mackay has left Jeremy for reasons unknown to any of us and I guess we will never know

I expect Jeremy will talk to Ngb but I expect that the conversation would be confidential

Jeremy will deal with this like every other knock back in his life

[lookout]

Someone appears desperate that Jeremy shouldn't be freed ??

[petey]

IN MY OPINION, give the huge scale of evidence in this case, if jb is indeed innocent then he needs a far bigger legal team than that provided by Simon McKay. People seem to have the perception that he is some kind of miracle worker who will simply find the evidence to secure jb's freedom.

Let's get in the real world, as it doesn't work anywhere near like that. It's all very well saying jb's previous legal teams have failed him but i don't think people appreciate the sheer scale of the case.

The campaign team or this website aren't going to free jb from jail. IF he is innocent, then REAL, TANGIBLE evidence is required. I still haven't seen any.

It's all well and good debating how the investigation was flawed, trial unfair, evidence weak.........that now means nothing. For jb to overturn his conviction he needs NEW evidence which points to his innocence. It is not enough for him to show that they cannot prove him guilty.

If people on this website genuinely want to try to 'make a difference' if they believe jb is innocent then consider what they can do. eg. jb obviously needs funds, but fundraising for a convicted child killer is not easy. Publicity, high profile support etc.   This has all been discussed before but v v v little appears to have been done.

As things stand i still haven's seen anything tangible that point me to jb's innocence despite repeated claims. IF these claims are true It's time for people who have made such claims to stand up and be counted otherwise jb will remain where he is until his death.

[ngb1066]

Do we know why ngb? For I remember him saying that he was in for the long haul?

I understand it was amicable, and by mutual agreement.  Somon McKay did not pull away from the case.  He was prepared to continue acting as he regards the case as a MoJ.  There were apparently different views about the best way forward. 

[tyler]

Hello tyler or maybe Simon Mackay has left Jeremy for reasons unknown to any of us and I guess we will never know

Yes of course Susan,Maybe it was SM's choice. He may have felt that he couldn't do any more for Jeremy without any new evidence?

[ngb1066]

Probably the longwindedness of the CCRC. It would put anyone off. Do they by any chance have access to documents that are being held under PII,or EP ?

The CCRC have powers to call for all case documents, including material held under PII.  Unfortunately experience suggests that they are generally unwilling to use their powers to the full.

[susan]

tyler quite right always a reason for happenings.  Hope you are wellX

[lookout]

It's pretty difficult to rustle up " new " evidence if the man was nowhere near the place. There'd be neither evidence nor alibi if he was in bed. It's what's known as really hard luck and there's little else anyone can do about it. Jeremy was an easy target and that's that.

It's like any of us if we were in that same situation. Is ANYONE going to believe a word we say ? No,of course not.

[JackiePreece]

I understand it was amicable, and by mutual agreement.  Somon McKay did not pull away from the case.  He was prepared to continue acting as he regards the case as a MoJ.  There were apparently different views about the best way forward.

Thank you Ngb that's really good to know

[JackiePreece]

IN MY OPINION, give the huge scale of evidence in this case, if jb is indeed innocent then he needs a far bigger legal team than that provided by Simon McKay. People seem to have the perception that he is some kind of miracle worker who will simply find the evidence to secure jb's freedom.

Let's get in the real world, as it doesn't work anywhere near like that. It's all very well saying jb's previous legal teams have failed him but i don't think people appreciate the sheer scale of the case.

The campaign team or this website aren't going to free jb from jail. IF he is innocent, then REAL, TANGIBLE evidence is required. I still haven't seen any.

It's all well and good debating how the investigation was flawed, trial unfair, evidence weak.........that now means nothing. For jb to overturn his conviction he needs NEW evidence which points to his innocence. It is not enough for him to show that they cannot prove him guilty.

If people on this website genuinely want to try to 'make a difference' if they believe jb is innocent then consider what they can do. eg. jb obviously needs funds, but fundraising for a convicted child killer is not easy. Publicity, high profile support etc.   This has all been discussed before but v v v little appears to have been done.

As things stand i still haven's seen anything tangible that point me to jb's innocence despite repeated claims. IF these claims are true It's time for people who have made such claims to stand up and be counted otherwise jb will remain where he is until his death.

I guess we will have to aim a bit higher Petey

It's good to know Simon still believed Jeremy to be a moj

[lookout]

The CCRC have powers to call for all case documents, including material held under PII.  Unfortunately experience suggests that they are generally unwilling to use their powers to the full.

Aha,I see,ngb. Selective,maybe ? I thought they were there to help come what may. I was wrong.

[petey]

I guess we will have to aim a bit higher Petey

It's good to know Simon still believed Jeremy to be a moj

I'd be more worried that jb has chosen to part ways with him as he wanted to go in a different direction.

There is an insinuation that jb thinks he knows better than his legal team which is both worrying and foolhardy.

[ngb1066]

Aha,I see,ngb. Selective,maybe ? I thought they were there to help come what may. I was wrong.

Yes.  It can be an uphill struggle dealing with the CCRC.  They have a vast caseload and are underfunded.  They are supposed to carry out investigations themselves and sometimes they do, but more often they expect the defence to do the work and present them with new evidence.  This is very hard to do because there is no legal aid available.