involvement of special branch.

[nugnug]

So,Special Branch became involved,by destroying the exhibits whilst the Home Office was undertaking a review of the Bamber case? It is now common knowledge to those who are interested enough to delve,that Special Branch were heavily used,especially in the 80's,as a 'clean up' operation for the government.

well that explians why they asked specail branch and not the home office.

they can hardly go to the home ofice and say you know that case you ordered a review into could we destroy the evedence please.

[JackiePreece]

Only blood samples destroyed. That is very, very strange. And skippy, before you become fresh with me: GOOD NIGHT, won´t be reading your post! 

Perfect

[nugnug]

so the office order a review of the case. someone in essex police requests persmission from special branch to destroy evedence. the special branch officer who autherises it happens to be a former essex officer and also a bit player in the case himself.

[tyler]

well that explians why they asked specail branch and not the home office.

they can hardly go to the home ofice and say you know that case you ordered a review into could we destroy the evedence please.

Could the home office not have had SB destroy the items?

[Patti]

Could the home office not have had SB destroy the items?

Who Is SB Tyler...My memory is going....

[tyler]

Who Is SB Tyler...My memory is going....

Sorry Patti - Special Branch

[nugnug]

Could the home office not have had SB destroy the items?

well they could of done but i cant see any evedence they did and i cant see a reason why they would.

[Patti]

Sorry Patti - Special Branch

Oh yeah! 

[tyler]

Oh yeah! 

lol....bless ya 

[Mr. Gee]

There is still a lot of material kept in storage (200 boxes, thereabout). The EP say they don´t have the manpower or money to go through them - we saw that in an answer to Bambergate.
How could they determine what was relevant or not, if they haven´t been through the material?

I suspect since it is obvious that Special Branch was involved in the case in some way that there are indeed certain things they are not telling us?

[Mr. Gee]

All documentary references have indicated only blood samples.  Whether there are other things that the CCRC had been seeking that were destroyed has not been established by any documents.  People speculate but the CCRC and Court of Appeal decisions only mention blood samples.

Testing their clothing would have been futile since cross contamination of DNA in general on heir clothing would be expected and the chance of the blood on the victim clothing being blood of other victims or that of the killer nonexistent since Jeremy would have worn gloves and thus not cut his hand and thus would not have bled on any victims and Sheila had no wounds other than the gunshots so can't have bled on any victims and the only blood on her clothing was clearly her own none could have been spatter from any victims.  So DNA testing the clothing would serve no purpose.

Didn't you mention in another post that Sheila's nightdress and Ralph's pygamas were among the things destroyed?

[scipio_usmc]

Didn't you mention in another post that Sheila's nightdress and Ralph's pygamas were among the things destroyed?

Someone else claimed they were along with the bible but presented no evidence.  I merely noted that they would not be of any value for DNA testing so even if true would not mean much.  Obviously they are not stored in the same location as blood samples.  So it is possible they were not destroyed and just the blood samples were to make room for more blood samples.

It is alswyas possible they were also destroyed though around the same time or a different time.  We have no evidence to tell us one way or the other.

[Mr. Gee]

Who Is SB Tyler...My memory is going....

I was thinking who is S.B. Tyler as well.

[Mr. Gee]

Someone else claimed they were along with the bible but presented no evidence.  I merely noted that they would not be of any value for DNA testing so even if true would not mean much.  Obviously they are not stored in the same location as blood samples.  So it is possible they were not destroyed and just the blood samples were to make room for more blood samples.

It is alswyas possible they were also destroyed though around the same time or a different time.  We have no evidence to tell us one way or the other.

No I know they wouldn't be any use for dna testing. But if Shiela's nightdress was available they could do other tests such as examining the blood spatter patters etc. I could be wrong, but I'm sure I saw posted a list of the items that were destroyed?

[lookout]

 Junes' nightie would have been of interest !