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Offline susan

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« Reply #45 on: September 24, 2014, 09:00:PM »
lookout was your bro with Special Branch? it must have been such a worrying time not knowing where he was and who he was with.

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« Reply #46 on: September 24, 2014, 09:18:PM »
but then the homeoficce would of asked why they wanted it destroyed.



Perhaps permission was sought, and granted, to get rid of stuff no longer applicable or relevant.

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« Reply #47 on: September 24, 2014, 09:21:PM »
lookout was your bro with Special Branch? it must have been such a worrying time not knowing where he was and who he was with.





No,he was working for the government,but visited GCHQ on a regular basis when he wasn't away on business.

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« Reply #48 on: September 24, 2014, 09:22:PM »


Perhaps permission was sought, and granted, to get rid of stuff no longer applicable or relevant.

There is still a lot of material kept in storage (200 boxes, thereabout). The EP say they don´t have the manpower or money to go through them - we saw that in an answer to Bambergate.
How could they determine what was relevant or not, if they haven´t been through the material?

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« Reply #49 on: September 24, 2014, 09:30:PM »
If EP have nothing to hide,then they'll produce the goods,yes ?

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« Reply #50 on: September 24, 2014, 09:32:PM »


Perhaps permission was sought, and granted, to get rid of stuff no longer applicable or relevant.

i think they went to someone who wouldn't ask to many questions as to why they wanted it destroyed.

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« Reply #51 on: September 24, 2014, 09:37:PM »
Tell you the truth I have no answer as to why the case is so popular with people here? Especially an American? Type Jeremy Bamber into google. You get no answers until you get to Bam. So the case is really not that well known. No one but no one in America has ever heard of Jeremy Bamber and I doubt very much if most of this country has either.
Indeed in any large American city there are murders like this one and worse happening on a daily basis so I doubt that they would even batt an eyelid at the Bamber case.
So why on earth does this case interest Special Branch?


Grahame there is nothing normal about this case
Think about it

1) special branch involved
2) ewen smith who believed JB to be innocent offered a job at the ccrc
3)as soon as the media savvy Simon McKay takes over the case and all of a sudden a deadline for submissions is announced

Very very sinister and JB keeps plodding on fighting the case

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« Reply #52 on: September 24, 2014, 09:48:PM »
So,Special Branch became involved,by destroying the exhibits whilst the Home Office was undertaking a review of the Bamber case? It is now common knowledge to those who are interested enough to delve,that Special Branch were heavily used,especially in the 80's,as a 'clean up' operation for the government.

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« Reply #53 on: September 24, 2014, 09:54:PM »
Perhaps permission was sought, and granted, to get rid of stuff no longer applicable or relevant.

The only thing that seems to have been destroyed were blood samples. So far no one has been able to produce evidence of anything besides blood sample as being what the letter in question was referring to.

 
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« Reply #54 on: September 24, 2014, 09:55:PM »
Of course it must be remembered that Ralph was in the secret service during the second world war or similar. Perhaps that was the reason for Special Branch's involvement? Just a guess.

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« Reply #55 on: September 24, 2014, 09:58:PM »

Grahame there is nothing normal about this case
Think about it

1) special branch involved
2) ewen smith who believed JB to be innocent offered a job at the ccrc
3)as soon as the media savvy Simon McKay takes over the case and all of a sudden a deadline for submissions is announced

Very very sinister and JB keeps plodding on fighting the case

If you look at the death of Princess Diana it's not difficult to believe what can be covered up
Actually Jackie this is one of the reasons that I am interested in this case. The fact that there are these anomalies. They may mean nothing at all, But me being of a suspicious disposition I rather think they do?

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« Reply #56 on: September 24, 2014, 09:58:PM »
i doubt if it would of much intrest to them 40 years later.

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« Reply #57 on: September 24, 2014, 09:59:PM »
The only thing that seems to have been destroyed were blood samples. So far no one has been able to produce evidence of anything besides blood sample as being what the letter in question was referring to.
I thought it was bits of bloodied clothing as well?

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« Reply #58 on: September 24, 2014, 10:07:PM »
Only blood samples destroyed. That is very, very strange. And skippy, before you become fresh with me: GOOD NIGHT, won´t be reading your post!  ;D

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« Reply #59 on: September 24, 2014, 10:07:PM »
I thought it was bits of bloodied clothing as well?

All documentary references have indicated only blood samples.  Whether there are other things that the CCRC had been seeking that were destroyed has not been established by any documents.  People speculate but the CCRC and Court of Appeal decisions only mention blood samples.

Testing their clothing would have been futile since cross contamination of DNA in general on heir clothing would be expected and the chance of the blood on the victim clothing being blood of other victims or that of the killer nonexistent since Jeremy would have worn gloves and thus not cut his hand and thus would not have bled on any victims and Sheila had no wounds other than the gunshots so can't have bled on any victims and the only blood on her clothing was clearly her own none could have been spatter from any victims.  So DNA testing the clothing would serve no purpose.


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