Jeremy Just An Ordinary Boy

[Jane]

Well maybe you should try and make your posts more polite and not take your stance for granted and allow others to voice their opinions without the I know it all attitude.  You are a admin moderator therefore you should be nurture everybody and remain impartial.

Whether or not you have stated umpteen times why you have changed your opinion on Jeremy Bamber I don't know why regardless of the umpteen times I have asked you. I feel that you are not prepared to say why...so I wont ask again. 

Patti!!!!! I am GOBSMACKED!!! I really didn't believe you capable of such dogma and rudeness. I have to ask, were YOU the perfect moderator? If so, perhaps we should all step down and allow you to do the job. I think we are ALL aware of, in a PERFECT world, what SHOULD be done, but whilst we are responsible for dealing with the decidedly IMperfect -and in that I include myself!!!!- we have to call it as we see it at the time.

Personally, I feel that your "umpteen" demands on Caroline to say why she has changed her stance are out of order. She has told you, as have I, to the best of her ability. No one is demanding of you why you still believe Jeremy is innocent, which in my book is allowing you to have that belief without trying to interfere with your thought processes.

[Jane]

Harters, he's s strange one.

Seems to stay in the background, posting in other peoples threads and sitting on the fence, not really being a guilter or supporter. Most posters are pro or anti so will obviously upset people if they make good points. Despite this he has previously somehow got himself banned.

He only created two threads, in six months. Although to be fair other posters do not create threads. He was also honest enough to say he could not think of anything interesting enough to be worthy of creating a new thread.

Amazingly he thought he was important enough to create a poll on me. The reason ? I was creating discussion threads on Jeremy Bamber. Threads that had not been discussed before I might add.

He now seems to be having a domestic with another poster.

Hopefully Harters will become a better poster.

I guess Harters understands, that in the creation of threads, less is most definitely more.

[Caroline]

When I read it, it did not enter my mind he was joking. I think I know what Harters sounds like when he is joking - he does often, just not like this. It seemed out of character, and I was surprised it wasn´t stopped sooner - by whomever saw it first. Of course I have no idea who that would have been.

I did intervene first - when I saw it!! I also spoke to both Harters and Patti via PM which Patti seems reluctant to mention. Harters apologised via PM just as Patti did when she has her meltdown. Funny how Patti is aiming this at me when I was first to react and worked behind the scenes to try and sort it out - there's more to it. This little vendetta is all because I've changed my mind you have all altered your attitude and I can feel the foot stamping simply because I write something counter to what you think and am able to stand my ground. I'm not rude to anyone (with the exception of Jackie because she's rude to me - at which point everyone dons their blinkers  !!!! Quite amazing), you all just don't like what I have to say. Patti suggested I should remain impartial - just like she was when she was a mod? Bit hypocritical to say the least and to suggest I should be more nurturing? Huh? I'm not a nanny!! I have stood up for most of you here at one time or another. Everyone is a critic but no one is willing to put their money where their mouth is - if y'all think you can do a better job then step up!! Put in the same hours I have and put up with the same crap as I get thrown at me on a regular basis. All applications will be gratefully received!!

[susan]

April you are right harters posts up so much quality information and the forum is lucky to have him.

[susan]

Caroline you did intervene and as I have said you are a very fair person and we are lucky to have you as you do a great job.  Well done my girl. X

[Caroline]

Patti!!!!! I am GOBSMACKED!!! I really didn't believe you capable of such dogma and rudeness. I have to ask, were YOU the perfect moderator? If so, perhaps we should all step down and allow you to do the job. I think we are ALL aware of, in a PERFECT world, what SHOULD be done, but whilst we are responsible for dealing with the decidedly IMperfect -and in that I include myself!!!!- we have to call it as we see it at the time.

Personally, I feel that your "umpteen" demands on Caroline to say why she has changed her stance are out of order. She has told you, as have I, to the best of her ability. No one is demanding of you why you still believe Jeremy is innocent, which in my book is allowing you to have that belief without trying to interfere with your thought processes.

Thank you April  for your support, I wasn't gobsmaked though and have come to expect it. I have said numerous times why I believe Jeremy is guilty, Patti isn't here as a regular poster and if she missed something, it's up to her to read back instead of making demands. She finds me to be a 'know all' well, I wouldn't say I know all  - but I find her bolshy. No one is perfect! 

[Jane]

I did intervene first - when I saw it!! I also spoke to both Harters and Patti via PM which Patti seems reluctant to mention. Harters apologised via PM just as Patti did when she has her meltdown. Funny how Patti is aiming this at me when I was first to react and worked behind the scenes to try and sort it out - there's more to it. This little vendetta is all because I've changed my mind you have all altered your attitude and I can feel the foot stamping simply because I write something counter to what you think and am able to stand my ground. I'm not rude to anyone (with the exception of Jackie because she's rude to me - at which point everyone dons their blinkers  !!!! Quite amazing), you all just don't like what I have to say. Patti suggested I should remain impartial - just like she was when she was a mod? Bit hypocritical to say the least and to suggest I should be more nurturing? Huh? I'm not a nanny!! I have stood up for most of you here at one time or another. Everyone is a critic but no one is willing to put their money where their mouth is - if y'all think you can do a better job then step up!! Put in the same hours I have and put up with the same crap as I get thrown at me on a regular basis. All application will be gratefully received!!

Caroline, I think anyone else who'd been subjected to the bile that Jackie has vomited on you would have thrown in the towel by now. As for "NURTURING"!!!! We are NOT a counselling service. We are NOT responsible for the bad behaviour of others.

[Jane]

Thank you April  for your support, I wasn't gobsmaked though and have come to expect it. I have said numerous times why I believe Jeremy is guilty, Patti isn't here as a regular poster and if she missed something, it's up to her to read back instead of making demands. She finds me to be a 'know all' well, I wouldn't say I know all  - but I find her bolshy. No one is perfect! 

THERE ya go, see? You and I KNOW we're not perfect. Beats me why others expect us to be :D :D :D

[Caroline]

Jackie have you so much anger in you that you feel it necessary to attack harters and Caroline all the time.  Perhaps it is because you know they know more than you about the Bamber case.  Patti has tremendous knowledge on the case and harters and Caroline are aware of this and respect her for it.

Hi Susan, I'll be ignoring the wittering from the Jackie dept. from now on. It's not worth it!!

[No-Bits]

Hi Susan, I'll be ignoring the wittering from the Jackie dept. from now on. It's not worth it!!

Who isn't worth it?    :D

[susan]

Caroline you are quite right it is not worth it and my Mother always told me not to let other people's behaviour change mine and she was right of course so I will follow in your footsteps.

[susan]

Harters you are worth it my dear

[lookout]

I honestly don't know what's gone on as I'm more interested in the case than anything else,but because I'm Pattis' friend,I'll speak in her defence as a person and not whatever's gone on here.

Between Patti and myself,we are two entirely different characters,she being the one who'll " walk away " from any unpleasantness,whereas I will fight my corner and remain steadfast.

I know Patti well enough to say that she's NOT a nasty person by nature,does NOT hold grudges,and doesn't find it difficult to forgive.
Whatever has gone on ( and I don't wish to know ) it couldn't have been pleasant and certainly not what Patti's used to,which would have upset her greatly. I'm not making excuses,just trying to explain that she's the type of person who DOESN'T like trouble at any price and has difficulty in dealing with it.

She's not a " hard-knock " like me !!

[Caroline]

Caroline, I think anyone else who'd been subjected to the bile that Jackie has vomited on you would have thrown in the towel by now. As for "NURTURING"!!!! We are NOT a counselling service. We are NOT responsible for the bad behaviour of others.

Vvery few have anything to say when she attacks me - not that I need anyone's protection but it it seems to be a differet story when the attacks are headed my way. As for nurturing?? We're not baby sitters can't people regulate their own behaviour - people do realise we don't get paid for this right? 

[Caroline]

I honestly don't know what's gone on as I'm more interested in the case than anything else,but because I'm Pattis' friend,I'll speak in her defence as a person and not whatever's gone on here.

Between Patti and myself,we are two entirely different characters,she being the one who'll " walk away " from any unpleasantness,whereas I will fight my corner and remain steadfast.

I know Patti well enough to say that she's NOT a nasty person by nature,does NOT hold grudges,and doesn't find it difficult to forgive.
Whatever has gone on ( and I don't wish to know ) it couldn't have been pleasant and certainly not what Patti's used to,which would have upset her greatly. I'm not making excuses,just trying to explain that she's the type of person who DOESN'T like trouble at any price and has difficulty in dealing with it.

She's not a " hard-knock " like me !!

Thanks for that Lookout but her posts were uncalled for - I wasn't rude to anyone, I just stood my ground in a discussion in which I happen to know something about - I could feel a few posters starting to get a bit tetchy simply because I didn't back down. There has been a change in attitude toward me from many posters and it seems Patti decided to take the opportunity of jumping on the bandwagon. Being rude isn't nice, she didn't like it and neither do I.