A Call To Essex Police From Neville? - The poll

[Jan]

Reading Colins book again he does mention that in retrospect Jeremy did mention at Goldhanger that he thought his father could have received an injury before making the call- but with just a few short words I am not sure how he could have thought that ?  But it is definitely in his book that Jeremy did mention that.

I am re-reading it again as I did skim read it the first time and the views about the funerals and Jeremys moods after the murders are quite interesting . How he perceived them at the time and how when he knew he had been charged how he interpreted things differently.

As I said it appears there was a 24 /28 page statement taken on that morning from Jeremy .

[Jan]

So we  have Colin distinctly remembering  24-28 pages of statement given by Jeremy ( who refused to talk about Sheilas Drug involvement)  and then a 7 page and 3 page typed statement that came from that. Unless he just meant that they were pocket book pages?
It would have been interesting to see the original which would have all the words/timings etc fresh in his mind . Apparently he said at the time a lot of it was about Sheilas life.

[Adam]

Page 264 of Wilkes book. The judges summing up.

'On oath he denied trying to telephone Witham before calling Chelmsford.  However Bamber on the night told two officers  he had tried to call Witham.

Bamber is a bit all over the place regarding events on the night.

[Mr. Gee]

Page 264 of Wilkes book. The judges summing up.

'On oath he denied trying to telephone Witham before calling Chelmsford.  However Bamber on the night told two officers  he had tried to call Witham.

Bamber is a bit all over the place regarding events on the night.

So would you be in a similar situation. You haven't a clue have you Adam. I hope God doesn't test you one day because of you continual unjust thoughts concerning Bamber. If you believe him to be guilty then justice has been done and your words are just vanity and vexation of spirit and also redundant. You are neither qualified nor justified in condemning a man who is condemned already. Tat is why you are so obnoxious to people on the forum. Even by those who have changed their stance to guilty and when they disagree with you you just insult them by telling them that they changed their stance because of your wonderful unanswerable arguments and your charming invincible personality.

[Adam]

So would you be in a similar situation. You haven't a clue have you Adam. I hope God doesn't test you one day because of you continual unjust thoughts concerning Bamber. If you believe him to be guilty then justice has been done and your words are just vanity and vexation of spirit and also redundant. You are neither qualified nor justified in condemning a man who is condemned already. Tat is why you are so obnoxious to people on the forum. Even by those who have changed their stance to guilty and when they disagree with you you just insult them by telling them that they changed their stance because of your wonderful unanswerable arguments and your charming invincible personality.

Could you please post about the case Grahame. You're post is nothing to do with the case. Unfortunately I have had to report you again.

It is strange that Bamber should tell the police he had tried to phone Witham. He would be in a tiss, but surely he would know whether he phoned them or not.

Perhaps he found out pre trial that Witham was open all night, and the phones manned. Chelmsford got through to Witham straight away.

Claiming he phoned Witham does him more harm than good at trial. 

I will check the OS, to see if he mentions Witham at all. Perhaps he is now saying he phoned them  :D

[lookout]

Go ahead and report.It's all you're fit for !!

[Caroline]

Could you please post about the case Grahame. You're post is nothing to do with the case. Unfortunately I have had to report you again.

It is strange that Bamber should tell the police he had tried to phone Witham. He would be in a tiss, but surely he would know whether he phoned them or not.

Perhaps he found out pre trial that Witham was open all night, and the phones manned. Chelmsford got through to Witham straight away.

Claiming he phoned Witham does him more harm than good at trial. 

I will check the OS, to see if he mentions Witham at all. Perhaps he is now saying he phoned them  :D

Actually Adam, PC West seems to confirm that at some point Witham was unmanned by his comment that 'he was informed (by Bonnett) that officers had returned to Witham'.

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=6398.0;attach=39556

[Reader]

Neville ringing the police at 3.26am, then ringing Jeremy at 3.36am according to the OS.

Did you mean that? I don't recall any suggestion that Nevill rang Jeremy at 3:36am, as that's when Pc West thought (and recorded) that Jeremy was telephoning him.

Also, the idea that Nevill made a 999 call is implausible, as the BT operator who took the call would have little reason to stay quiet about it, and there's no direct evidence of it.

[Adam]

Did you mean that? I don't recall any suggestion that Nevill rang Jeremy at 3:36am, as that's when Pc West thought (and recorded) that Jeremy was telephoning him.

Also, the idea that Nevill made a 999 call is implausible, as the BT operator who took the call would have little reason to stay quiet about it, and there's no direct evidence of it.

Read the OS. Which NGB and Aunt Agatha said Bamber has full or at least part control over.

[Jane]

There seems to be an overriding tendency for certain posters to treat the written word as unquestionable irrevocable and 100% infallible. Writers have an angle, as anyone with a modicum of intelligence will know, and will generally lead the reader down a pre-chosen path.

There also appears to be, from some quarters, a sycophantic attitude to the opinions of others. One such being THE JUDGE!!!!!!!!! whose words -OPINIONS- are given God-like status. I will allow that his utterings, on points of law, probably can't be challenged. On opinion, however, his are probably of no MORE value than those of the more intelligent of us.......................don't all put your hands up at once, folks.

[Caroline]

Did you mean that? I don't recall any suggestion that Nevill rang Jeremy at 3:36am, as that's when Pc West thought (and recorded) that Jeremy was telephoning him.

Also, the idea that Nevill made a 999 call is implausible, as the BT operator who took the call would have little reason to stay quiet about it, and there's no direct evidence of it.

Wow! You've changed your mind about the call from Nevill then?

[tyler]

I think Reader believes Nevill phoned Chelmsford direct rather than 999?

[Jane]

I think Reader believes Nevill phoned Chelmsford direct rather than 999?

So Nevill took time out to flick through the phone book whilst Sheila was debating what to do with the gun??

[tyler]

I said I think that is what READER believes. I would imagine anyway that Nevill would have known the number of Chelmsford off by heart.

[Caroline]

I think Reader believes Nevill phoned Chelmsford direct rather than 999?

Bonnett was a civilian worker and not a police officer - he would have no reason to lie either. I'm surprised that Reader can see the the logic of 'the no reason to lie' argument when applied to a BT worker but not a civilian control room operator. Plus surely the BT operator just asks which service the caller requires?