A Call To Essex Police From Neville? - The poll

[lookout]

Why were there ever 2 different phone numbers on the logs ?
And don't anyone say that Jeremy cycled to WHF and back in order to accomplish that----------because I WON'T buy it !

[No-Bits]

Maggie do you ever ask Jackie the same question as you have asked Scipio.  She is so rude to Caroline and Adam and harters is that OK with you..

Yes, that is rather inconsistent isn't it Susan.

[maggie]

Maggie do you ever ask Jackie the same question as you have asked Scipio.  She is so rude to Caroline and Adam and harters is that OK with you..

Susan as you know I am on holiday and and had acquick look on the forum late last night. I saw scipio's post and commented. It so happens I have not been on line when JP has been rude to Caroline or no doubt many bother instances of abuse from various people.. You know very well why I have not been involved in tthe forum much this year and it has nothing to do with bias. I would suggest you take your complaints to admin, ie NGB and Caroline.

[No-Bits]

Susan as you know I am on holiday and and had acquick look on the forum late last night. I saw scipio's post and commented. It so happens I have not been on line when JP has been rude to Caroline or no doubt many bother instances of abuse from various people.. You know very well why I have not been involved in tthe forum much this year and it has nothing to do with bias. I would suggest you take your complaints to admin, ie NGB and Caroline.

I think it was more of an observation than a complaint.

[susan]

Maggie I am not making a complaint merely asked a question in a nice manner cannot understand why you think I am complaining. I know you have not been as active on the forum and I apologise if you have taken me up wrong it was not a complaint just a question and you have answered it.  Thank you.

[maggie]

I think it was more of an observation than a complaint.

I think if you read my reply to susan you may understand that she already knew the answer so if it wasn't a complaiht, what was the point of the question?

[No-Bits]

I think if you read my reply to susan you may understand that she already knew the answer so if it wasn't a complaiht, what was the point of the question?

The reply which I quoted? It would appear that I did indeed read it. 

Perhaps you have not read Susan's reply to your reply where you accused Susan of making a complaint, where she enlightened you to the fact that no complaint was being made, simply a rather courteously and politely worded question?

I hope you are enjoying your holiday. 

[ngb1066]

Maggie I am not making a complaint merely asked a question in a nice manner cannot understand why you think I am complaining. I know you have not been as active on the forum and I apologise if you have taken me up wrong it was not a complaint just a question and you have answered it.  Thank you.

Susan - asking such a question implies a critisism, as I am sure you know.  Criticism of Maggie is not justified, she has always been scrupulously fair as a Global Moderator.  As far as attacks on Caroline are concerned, she has dealt with these very effectively as they have occurred.  In addition as you know I warned Jackie about attacking the admins/mods, in particular April and Caroline, and then imposed a temporary ban.

[susan]

Morning ngb I can assure you no criticism was meant and I have apologised if my question was taken the wrong way.

[No-Bits]

Susan - asking such a question implies a critisism, as I am sure you know.  Criticism of Maggie is not justified, she has always been scrupulously fair as a Global Moderator.  As far as attacks on Caroline are concerned, she has dealt with these very effectively as they have occurred.  In addition as you know I warned Jackie about attacking the admins/mods, in particular April and Caroline, and then imposed a temporary ban.

I think that is rather unfair NGB.

You have indeed 'dealt' with Jackie in the past, recently in fact, however you surely cannot deny that she is given a certain amount of leeway for her behaviour. It is likely that it has simply been acknowledged that she is unable to help herself.

That leeway is also clearly extended to Scipio in abundance and I certainly do not endorse his remarks of a personal or insulting manner.

That being said, Maggie did openly criticise what was a rather mild and perhaps even justified comment from Scipio. Susan observed the comment and asked if Maggie had openly criticised Jackie for her (at the very least) equally abrasive posts in the past, even since her last ban.

I do not mean this as a criticism towards the admins/mods, or as a complaint, I feel rather apathetic towards the whole situation. Although I do not think that Susan should be chastised in such a manner for making her observation, but I am sure she will get over it.

[No-Bits]

As an example, I have been busily providing links to all of the available statements so that members of the forum can find them easily and to allow for further discussion.

Most people have said thank you, although Jackie instead declared me as being desperate. 

Whilst it makes, no difference to me whatsoever, it's water of a ducks back so to speak, I have 'observed' that Maggie (nor any other mod, admin or poster) took it upon themselves to criticise her.

Of course leaving her comment in place may well be another 'decision', as it certainly reflects badly on Jackie.

I do fully understand that is just the way things are, but again, I think criticising Susan for making the same observation is a little off.

Anyway, that's my 2p, I shall say no more. 

[ngb1066]

I think that is rather unfair NGB.

You have indeed 'dealt' with Jackie in the past, recently in fact, however you surely cannot deny that she is given a certain amount of leeway for her behaviour. It is likely that it has simply been acknowledged that she is unable to help herself.

That leeway is also clearly extended to Scipio in abundance and I certainly do not endorse his remarks of a personal or insulting manner.

That being said, Maggie did openly criticise what was a rather mild and perhaps even justified comment from Scipio. Susan observed the comment and asked if Maggie had openly criticised Jackie for her (at the very least) equally abrasive posts in the past, even since her last ban.

I do not mean this as a criticism towards the admins/mods, or as a complaint, I feel rather apathetic towards the whole situation. Although I do not think that Susan should be chastised in such a manner for making her observation, but I am sure she will get over it.

OK I take your point.  I have a different perspective, but I suppose in reality it is not that important.  I just wish all the personal attacks could stop.  The odd flare up is inevitable and understandable, but the style of a few posters is aggressive and antagonistic and it does cause offence.

It is a thankless task being an administrator or moderator here.  Both action and inaction in a specific situation can arouse anger and criticism and it is hard if not impossible to please everyone.

 

[Caroline]

OK I take your point.  I have a different perspective, but I suppose in reality it is not that important.  I just wish all the personal attacks could stop.  The odd flare up is inevitable and understandable, but the style of a few posters is aggressive and antagonistic and it does cause offence.

It is a thankless task being an administrator or moderator here.  Both action and inaction in a specific situation can arouse anger and criticism and it is hard if not impossible to please everyone.

Amen to that!

[No-Bits]

OK I take your point.  I have a different perspective, but I suppose in reality it is not that important.  I just wish all the personal attacks could stop.  The odd flare up is inevitable and understandable, but the style of a few posters is aggressive and antagonistic and it does cause offence.

It is a thankless task being an administrator or moderator here.  Both action and inaction in a specific situation can arouse anger and criticism and it is hard if not impossible to please everyone.

Yes that would be good and I agree.

The phrase 'between a rock and a hard place' springs to mind. 

[Reader]

He took further information about guns on the premises and then had the line checked - nothing weird there.

No, he couldn't have taken any further information after Jeremy's call ended (which is the period of time I asked about). He apparently got the information about the guns present at WHF before telephoning Bonnett, as the information is in Bonnett's log. Pc West might have added some notes to his log after Jeremy's call ended, but that wouldn't have taken long.

I have no idea why Smith said the clock was often inaccurate but not because Neville called.

You can't consistently have no idea and simultaneously rule out one possibility.