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Re: jullie mugford in custody
« Reply #15 on: September 08, 2014, 06:45:PM »
we all know what an arrest is.

how would liz know what julie mugford had or had not told the police did mugford tell her she kept things back from the police.

Are you seriously asking how would Liz know that Julie had not told police the secret she told Liz about about Jeremy being behind the murders that the press reported police asserted were committe dby Sheila?
 
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Re: jullie mugford in custody
« Reply #16 on: September 08, 2014, 06:47:PM »
she had no way of knowing mugford hadent allready told the police this information  unless mugford told her she hadent she couldent have seen mugfords statement.
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« Reply #17 on: September 08, 2014, 06:52:PM »
Oh God,don't say anything that Scipio doesn't know about or you'll get chapter and verse about it for the next hour. He'd talk a glass eye to sleep.

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« Reply #18 on: September 08, 2014, 07:09:PM »
i wonder are mugford and rimingtom both in agreament about what they talked about.

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« Reply #19 on: September 08, 2014, 07:23:PM »
 Nugs,as you know,interviews are taped,so where are the tapes ?

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« Reply #20 on: September 08, 2014, 07:29:PM »
well if it was an interview under coution there should to be tapes yes so where are the tapes.



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Re: jullie mugford in custody
« Reply #21 on: September 08, 2014, 10:37:PM »
They didn't tape record interviews back in 1985. Only hand written statements.

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« Reply #22 on: September 08, 2014, 10:39:PM »
oh yes of course i keep forgeting how old this case is.

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« Reply #23 on: September 08, 2014, 10:40:PM »
Oh right. Not that it makes a scrap of difference because those notes won't come to light either.

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« Reply #24 on: September 08, 2014, 10:42:PM »
id be intrested to see if mugford and rimmington agrea on the basic facts of what was said between them obviosly there will be some diffrence.

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Re: jullie mugford in custody
« Reply #25 on: September 08, 2014, 10:45:PM »
Both jilted women too,that would have been interesting.

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Re: jullie mugford in custody
« Reply #26 on: September 09, 2014, 01:49:AM »
But the law considers it an arrest when you are detained and the significance is that your right to a lawyer and right to remain silent are implicated by such and you have to be told of such rights.
You gotta be kidding. Wouldn't it be more effective to beat the suspects up in the hope that they'll start to "cooperate"? They probably deserve it anyway.

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« Reply #27 on: September 09, 2014, 03:14:AM »
You gotta be kidding. Wouldn't it be more effective to beat the suspects up in the hope that they'll start to "cooperate"? They probably deserve it anyway.

The most effective methods are not legal.  In any event they are not always effective anyway because people will sometimes just tell police what they want to hear instead of the truth. that sometimes happens regardless of th emethods.  That is why it is necessary to look at the evidence to see if claims match because people will make false confessions and give bogus information for a wide variety of reasons.
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Re: jullie mugford in custody
« Reply #28 on: September 09, 2014, 03:34:AM »
In practice, one can often "get away" with such methods, even when they're officially classified as torture and don't work as well as you might like. If necessary, blame the suspects for their injuries, or say "Sorry, we mistook you for someone on our 'wanted' list."

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« Reply #29 on: September 09, 2014, 08:15:PM »
and in those days they often did get away with such methods.