Sheila's blood underneath the bible. Certain guilt ?

[Adam]

Jeremy agreed that Sheila's blood was on the carpet underneath the bible.

He submitted this evidence to one of the worlds best professors in 1993. He did not argue with the professors findings. Preferring to keep it quiet and focus on the silencer, which really is his only hope.

Alias said today she 'is not going to answer this stupid question' when I asked her how Sheila's blood could end up underneath the bible on the carpet.

Obviously it is not a stupid question and highlights certain guilt.

It is impossible that Sheila's blood could get underneath a bible which was already on the floor.

If Sheila for some reason was holding the bible when she fired her first shot, the shock and pain of the bullet would have resulted in the bible dropping straight to the floor. Before any blood hit the carpet from her head. That is if Sheila was sitting up. So again impossible.

Jeremy agreed with the professor that Sheila was lying down when shot. So the bible would already be on the floor. So again impossible.

Perhaps the bible was somewhere else in the bedroom and Sheila went to get it after the first shot ? But why not have it with you prior to the first shot ? And there was no vertical blood lines on Sheila showing she had walked around.

The only possible explanation is the police moved the bible prior to crime scene investigators and photographers arriving. Then put it on top of Sheila's blood. This was against protocol and none of the police have said they did this. There is no reason to move the bible.

Jeremy himself has never mentioned this issue as far as I know.

Do other people agree if the police did not move the bible, Sheila's blood being underneath the bible shows certain guilt ?

[Adam]

Come to think of it, people usually use two hands when firing a long rifle.

One hand to direct the rifle, the other to pull the trigger.

So Sheila would have put the bible on the floor before firing her first shot.

So how did her blood get underneath the bible ?

[Jan]

Jeremy agreed that Sheila's blood was on the carpet underneath the bible.

He submitted this evidence to one of the worlds best professors in 1993. He did not argue with the professors findings. Preferring to keep it quiet and focus on the silencer, which really is his only hope.

Alias said today she 'is not going to answer this stupid question' when I asked her how Sheila's blood could end up underneath the bible on the carpet.

Obviously it is not a stupid question and highlights certain guilt.



did you read the link I showed you?

Adams claimed that the photos did not show the bible in the original position? 

Also it was mentioned in his 1991 interviews I believe .

It is impossible that Sheila's blood could get underneath a bible which was already on the floor.

If Sheila for some reason was holding the bible when she fired her first shot, the shock and pain of the bullet would have resulted in the bible dropping straight to the floor. Before any blood hit the carpet from her head. That is if Sheila was sitting up. So again impossible.

Jeremy agreed with the professor that Sheila was lying down when shot. So the bible would already be on the floor. So again impossible.

Perhaps the bible was somewhere else in the bedroom and Sheila went to get it after the first shot ? But why not have it with you prior to the first shot ? And there was no vertical blood lines on Sheila showing she had walked around.

The only possible explanation is the police moved the bible prior to crime scene investigators and photographers arriving. Then put it on top of Sheila's blood. This was against protocol and none of the police have said they did this. There is no reason to move the bible.

Jeremy himself has never mentioned this issue as far as I know.

Do other people agree if the police did not move the bible, Sheila's blood being underneath the bible shows certain guilt ?

[lookout]

June could have had hold of it,as the blood prints on it were from a womans' hand.Two women don't forget,and June was very badly injured.

[Alias]

Come to think of it, people usually use two hands when firing a long rifle.

One hand to direct the rifle, the other to pull the trigger.

So Sheila would have put the bible on the floor before firing her first shot.

So how did her blood get underneath the bible ?

We don´t know if it was on the floor - it could have been on the bed.
Sheila could have picked the bible up after the first shot, she was conscious.

[Jan]

Come to think of it, people usually use two hands when firing a long rifle.

One hand to direct the rifle, the other to pull the trigger.

So Sheila would have put the bible on the floor before firing her first shot.

So how did her blood get underneath the bible ?

did the police test the blood that you think was under the bible? Were there prints on the bible?

you have to be a bit clearer

[Adam]

We don´t know if it was on the floor - it could have been on the bed.
Sheila could have picked the bible up after the first shot, she was conscious.

There is no evidence that Sheila was ever on the bed. It is being optimistic that she was and the police moved her onto the floor.

Why an earth would Sheila pick up the bible after the first shot ?

[Alias]

There is no evidence that Sheila was ever on the bed. It is being optimistic that she was and the police moved her onto the floor.

Why an earth would Sheila pick up the bible after the first shot ?

I didn´t say that Sheila was on the bed, the bible could have been either on the bed or on the floor.
Sheila´s actions were dictated by her religious delusions, she could have picked up the bible to reinforce herself, to get strength.

[Jan]

trying again - here is what adams said the bible was originally 12-18" away level with her waist - not as shown in photos.

now if it was moved and then stained - that would show her blood was still wet?

[Reader]

This was against protocol and none of the police have said they did this.

There are two photographs reproduced on this forum that show Sheila's body (not just her arm) in slightly different positions on the floor. Which police officer has admitted moving her whole body inbetween the times when those photographs were taken? It's abundantly clear that numerous protocols weren't followed.

[Jan]

There are two photographs reproduced on this forum that show Sheila's body (not just her arm) in slightly different positions on the floor. Which police officer has admitted moving her whole body inbetween the times when those photographs were taken? It's abundantly clear that numerous protocols weren't followed.

quite right , they admitted moving the gun and her arm , which is partly why it looks so staged.

And if Adams was right the bible is not in the same position in the photos as when he first saw it.

[Adam]

People are focusing on the police again. 

Do people agree that if Sheila's blood was on the carpet underneath the bible and it was not the police, someone put it
there after the second shot ? 

The 2002 appeal also says Sheila's legs were pulled after the second shot. That must have been the police again.

[Reader]

quite right , they admitted moving the gun and her arm , which is partly why it looks so staged.

That doesn't account for her whole body having been moved. One can clearly see that her arm and the gun were moved. On careful inspection, one can also see that her whole body has been moved, as it's differently positioned in relation to bloodstains on the carpet.

[Alias]

People are focusing on the police again. 

Do people agree that if Sheila's blood was on the carpet underneath the bible and it was not the police, someone put it
there after the second shot ? 

The 2002 appeal also says Sheila's legs were pulled after the second shot. That must have been the police again.

She could have put it there after the first shot, she bled in between shots.

It is a fact we can see the bible has been moved between photographs taken that morning - that must have been the police. Who knows how much it was moved around.

[Jan]

People are focusing on the police again. 

Do people agree that if Sheila's blood was on the carpet underneath the bible and it was not the police, someone put it
there after the second shot ? 

The 2002 appeal also says Sheila's legs were pulled after the second shot. That must have been the police again.

Adam

If PC adams said he thought the bible had been moved ( with two others) then it must have been the later officers who moved it - we are concentrating on the police because by that stage they were the only people there.

So I repeat - if they moved the bible and then laid it on top of the blood - that would indicate the blood was still wet ? that would show she died not long before the police entered.