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Can Jeremy have fooled so many?
« on: August 30, 2014, 04:14:PM »
There are four general questions for anyone who believes that Jeremy killed his family.

(1) Why did DCI Jones remain so convinced of Jeremy's innocence even when doubts were raised?

(2) Why did Julie remain by Jeremy's side for weeks whilst suspecting (or knowing) that he was a murderer?

(3) Is it really plausible that Jeremy, if he did kill his family, has a complete absence of conscience and the ability to fool all the professionals who have talked to him to evaluate his mentality, has comprehensively passed a polygraph test, and has convinced mike tesko and various other people that he has talked to extensively that he is innocent of killing his family?

(4) Why has mike tesko (if Jeremy did kill his family) been inventing discussions with informant(s) from EP for years?

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Re: Can Jeremy have fooled so many?
« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2014, 04:18:PM »
Also a big question for me is how did he know how he would react after the murders and plan to stand next to the police very shortly afterwards?

How did he know how to get rid of any forensic evidence so efficiently when he really had not a clue whether he could convince the police of his story?

How did he know they were not going to establish a time of death which probably would have thrown his whole phone call scenario out of the window?

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Re: Can Jeremy have fooled so many?
« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2014, 04:28:PM »
Also a big question for me is how did he know how he would react after the murders and plan to stand next to the police very shortly afterwards?

How did he know how to get rid of any forensic evidence so efficiently when he really had not a clue whether he could convince the police of his story?

How did he know they were not going to establish a time of death which probably would have thrown his whole phone call scenario out of the window?

Especially knowing he had shot her twice! One cool cucumber!

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Re: Can Jeremy have fooled so many?
« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2014, 04:32:PM »
how did he know there would be an open window to climb through.

even if he left it open how did he know nobody would close it.

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Re: Can Jeremy have fooled so many?
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2014, 04:34:PM »
nugnug he could open certain windows from outside even when they were closed.

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« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2014, 04:38:PM »
how did he know there would be an open window to climb through.

even if he left it open how did he know nobody would close it.

How many years have you been here? And you're STILL asking that question? It's been explained a thousand times, I don't believe you truthfully can still be asking that question.

nugnug he could open certain windows from outside even when they were closed.

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Re: Can Jeremy have fooled so many?
« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2014, 04:39:PM »
nugnug he could open certain windows from outside even when they were closed.

yes but he could not close them from the outside and make them lock - this was said by the police despite what the family said .

And if all the windows were not secured then the police made an error.

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Re: Can Jeremy have fooled so many?
« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2014, 04:40:PM »
There are four general questions for anyone who believes that Jeremy killed his family.

(1) Why did DCI Jones remain so convinced of Jeremy's innocence even when doubts were raised?

(2) Why did Julie remain by Jeremy's side for weeks whilst suspecting (or knowing) that he was a murderer?

(3) Is it really plausible that Jeremy, if he did kill his family, has a complete absence of conscience and the ability to fool all the professionals who have talked to him to evaluate his mentality, has comprehensively passed a polygraph test, and has convinced mike tesko and various other people that he has talked to extensively that he is innocent of killing his family?

(4) Why has mike tesko (if Jeremy did kill his family) been inventing discussions with informant(s) from EP for years?

There have already been threads on Taff Jones and lots on Julie.

Did you read my thread on Jeremy perhaps having narcaisstic immunity traits ?

Mike shared a cell for a few hours with Jeremy once, and became convinced of his innocence.
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Re: Can Jeremy have fooled so many?
« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2014, 04:42:PM »
There are four general questions for anyone who believes that Jeremy killed his family.

(1) Why did DCI Jones remain so convinced of Jeremy's innocence even when doubts were raised?

(2) Why did Julie remain by Jeremy's side for weeks whilst suspecting (or knowing) that he was a murderer?

(3) Is it really plausible that Jeremy, if he did kill his family, has a complete absence of conscience and the ability to fool all the professionals who have talked to him to evaluate his mentality, has comprehensively passed a polygraph test, and has convinced mike tesko and various other people that he has talked to extensively that he is innocent of killing his family?

(4) Why has mike tesko (if Jeremy did kill his family) been inventing discussions with informant(s) from EP for years?

1. He obviously believed him but everyone else didn't
2. Have my own view on Juile but I can't say it here.
3. If he is a psychopath - yes. I wonder if he would agree to a brain scan, they don't lie?
4. I believe that Mike believes that Jeremy is innocent - he has been a good friend!!
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Re: Can Jeremy have fooled so many?
« Reply #9 on: August 30, 2014, 04:48:PM »
1. He obviously believed him but everyone else didn't
2. Have my own view on Juile but I can't say it here.
3. If he is a psychopath - yes. I wonder if he would agree to a brain scan, they don't lie?
4. I believe that Mike believes that Jeremy is innocent - he has been a good friend!!

point 4 is in the past is it not? not sure they are friends now?

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Re: Can Jeremy have fooled so many?
« Reply #10 on: August 30, 2014, 04:49:PM »
point 4 is in the past is it not? not sure they are friends now?

Which is why I said 'has' and not 'is'  ;D
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Re: Can Jeremy have fooled so many?
« Reply #11 on: August 30, 2014, 04:51:PM »
Which is why I said 'has' and not 'is'  ;D

oh I thought you mean has been as in continuing - got it now.

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Re: Can Jeremy have fooled so many?
« Reply #12 on: August 30, 2014, 04:55:PM »
oh I thought you mean has been as in continuing - got it now.

I think that ship sailed  ;D ;D but Mike still does support him.
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Re: Can Jeremy have fooled so many?
« Reply #13 on: August 30, 2014, 04:55:PM »
Why did the relatives need a robin to point out to them which window Jeremy had exited through? Why was it bought hook, line and sinker? A robin! Give me a break!!

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Re: Can Jeremy have fooled so many?
« Reply #14 on: August 30, 2014, 04:57:PM »
(1) Why did DCI Jones remain so convinced of Jeremy's innocence even when doubts were raised?



He believed what he has been told. Maybe didn't like admitting to himself that he had been wrong and had been fooled.


(2) Why did Julie remain by Jeremy's side for weeks whilst suspecting (or knowing) that he was a murderer?


She likely knew more than she told the police.

 

(3) Is it really plausible that Jeremy, if he did kill his family, has a complete absence of conscience and the ability to fool all the professionals who have talked to him to evaluate his mentality, has comprehensively passed a polygraph test, and has convinced mike tesko and various other people that he has talked to extensively that he is innocent of killing his family?

(4) Why has mike tesko (if Jeremy did kill his family) been inventing discussions with informant(s) from EP for years?

3. Yes, of course.
4. Same reason other members here have claimed people from the case have come forward to them with the truth time after time after time.