Surely The Timings Are Incorrect?

[nugnug]

i wouldn't think any policeman who wasn't directly would in the case would be privy to any inside knowledge about it.

[Caroline]

But you still believe he was framed anyway so how many of EP knew in your scenario that he was framed but guilty? Half of them? All of them?
   And it is you saying that half of EP knew a call had been received from his father not me so don't put words into my mouth to make your argument. Why would "half the force" know a call had been received?

I was being sarcastic  . You still haven't answered the question of WHY the call would be kept secret and why an innocent man would be framed?

[Caroline]

i wouldn't think any policeman who wasn't directly would in the case would be privy to any inside knowledge about it.

Stan Jones was involved, IF there had been a call from Neville he would have been privy to it and yet, he thought Jeremy was guilty. If he knew about such a call - he would have known he was innocent.

[lookout]

That second call didn't emerge until 2004.so whether any officers " knew " or didn't,it was all about timings that had been entered wrongly on the log by Bonnett.
A full explanation is on the Official website.

[Caroline]

That second call didn't emerge until 2004.so whether any officers " knew " or didn't,it was all about timings that had been entered wrongly on the log by Bonnett.
A full explanation is on the Official website.

So, if Bonnet entered the time wrong (03:26) and West was correct with his timing, it means Jeremy didn't call the police until 03:36?? What was he doing from 03:10 to 03:36? That's 26 mins of doing ....... ?

[lookout]

Rolling logs,notes pertaining to the tragedy as events happened,such as Nevilles' phone-call which was a continuation of Jeremys' call. It took 22 years to fathom that one out.
Known as sloppy police work.Even the big chief Mick Gradwell wasn't very impressed with the way it was conducted.

[jon]

I was being sarcastic  . You still haven't answered the question of WHY the call would be kept secret and why an innocent man would be framed?

What was it that Taff whispered into RWB ear , ending with the word's ' now do you believe me ' ?

[jon]

Stan Jones was involved, IF there had been a call from Neville he would have been privy to it and yet, he thought Jeremy was guilty. If he knew about such a call - he would have known he was innocent.

Do you believe SJ went to the bank with JM ?

Why do you believe SJ interviewed JM so many times ?

[Jan]

So, if Bonnet entered the time wrong (03:26) and West was correct with his timing, it means Jeremy didn't call the police until 03:36?? What was he doing from 03:10 to 03:36? That's 26 mins of doing ....... ?

the Dickinson report said it was west that West made the mistake - and yet I always thought it was Bonnet that was put on the spot.

after reading that I am more confused than ever.

[gringo]

I was being sarcastic  . You still haven't answered the question of WHY the call would be kept secret and why an innocent man would be framed?

  I haven't answered your questions because I couldn't possibly know, although once the decision to frame an innocent man had been taken then the question of why the call would be kept secret answers itself.
     Why they would frame an innocent man is a question I can only speculate on, but innocent men have been knowingly framed so many times that I fail to see why you consider this a valid argument.
     So in your scenario what proportion of the force knew he was framed but were ok about it because they knew him to be guilty? And exactly how did they know he was guilty because if the evidence was fabricated then what did they base their certainty on? A hunch, gut feeling what?
      Where was the sarcasm by the way; I must have missed it. All I could see was a claim that EP couldn't have framed JB because half the force would know about his father's call and that for this reason my claims lacked credibility.
      It is clear that it would make no difference to the police response whether the call was 999 or not; the details of the incident are the same either way and that is what informs the response not the number dialled.
     
     

[Jan]

Am I missing something - if they framed him because they KNEW  100% he was guilty - then they would not need to frame him because the would have the evidence/ proof  anyway ? 

Or if they framed him because they THOUGHT he was guilty - then they did not have enough evidence, and needed to frame him to get a conviction and therefore they could have been wrong and they were actually framing an innocent man?


Excuse me if I am not making sense , had a stressful day in the office




 

[Jane]

Am I missing something - if they framed him because they KNEW  100% he was guilty - then they would not need to frame him because the would have the evidence/ proof  anyway ? 

Or if they framed him because they THOUGHT he was guilty - then they did not have enough evidence, and needed to frame him to get a conviction and therefore they could have been wrong and they were actually framing an innocent man?


Excuse me if I am not making sense , had a stressful day in the office

Jansus, pour yourself a glass of wine and put your feet up.

[gringo]

Am I missing something - if they framed him because they KNEW  100% he was guilty - then they would not need to frame him because the would have the evidence/ proof  anyway ? 

Or if they framed him because they THOUGHT he was guilty - then they did not have enough evidence, and needed to frame him to get a conviction and therefore they could have been wrong and they were actually framing an innocent man?


Excuse me if I am not making sense , had a stressful day in the office

Makes perfect sense Jansus.

[lookout]

EP didn't have a thing on Jeremy at all. He was arrested purely and simply for the break-in at the caravan site,and that then was used as a method of trying to make him confess to the murders.
If he hadn't have had such a record,they couldn't have arrested him for murder without any concrete evidence. This tells you how desperate EP were to get a conviction------with a little help. I bet anything that this " plan " was discussed around the table,minus a Dictaphone,but complete with relatives,as their willingness to " co-operate went way over the top.

[gringo]

What was it that Taff whispered into RWB ear , ending with the word's ' now do you believe me ' ?

We don't know but are apparently meant to assume that it wasn't that a phone call had been received from Nevill but show no curiosity beyond that.