Surely The Timings Are Incorrect?

[susan]

Morning Justice

I could never understand why JB did not dial 999 and why did he even think of calling Julie in London a natural reaction would be to drop everything and get to the farm as quickly as possible all the excuses don't wash with me.Have to agree with Adam on this subject well some of it

[Jane]

Morning Justice

I could never understand why JB did not dial 999 and why did he even think of calling Julie in London a natural reaction would be to drop everything and get to the farm as quickly as possible all the excuses don't wash with me.Have to agree with Adam on this subject well some of it

Susan, Good Morning If we turn the question on it's head and ask why WOULD he call for help urgently if he was responsible for the crime, the answer becomes rhetorical and Adam doesn't come in to the equation.

[susan]

Morning April  I note your points and as it is my opinion he was responsible for killing his family he would slow time the call to the police and this is why he spent time looking through a telephone directory and calling Julie he knew the situation at WHF had he not known he would have gone into panic mode and dialled 999 but he knew the situation was dire and urgency was not required.

[Caroline]

So why then would Bamber not call 999 then? You know its not treat as emergency i know its not and everyone else knows it, except of course Jeremy?

If Jeremy dialed 999 after stating he had JUST received a call from his father, the police might get there while he was still on the phone, enter the house,find  everyone had been dead for a while and thr only suspect would be Jeremy because he had just stated he had spoke to a man who must have been deceased at the time.

[susan]

Caroline good point never thought of that it would mean the police would get on the scene immediately and he did not want that.

[Caroline]

Caroline good point never thought of that it would mean the police would get on the scene immediately and he did not want that.

Exactly!

[guest7363]

If Jeremy dialed 999 after stating he had JUST received a call from his father, the police might get there while he was still on the phone, enter the house,find  everyone had been dead for a while and thr only suspect would be Jeremy because he had just stated he had spoke to a man who must have been deceased at the time.

Spot on again Caroline

[nugnug]

theres also another reason not to phone 999 if he was planing on carrying out the instructions he cliamed his father ie going down  there.

and he just wanted a bit of back rather than the police to actually deal with it i mean according to his story his dad hadent asked him to phone the police.

[maggie]

Spot on again Caroline

I see the reasoning of this but cannot see why Jeremy phoned the police at all, it was so unnecessary imo.  I know the adage that a psychopath is very proud of what they have achieved and often over eggs things because of that.  There is no evidence Jeremy Bamber is a psychopath and there are many people who have been close to Jeremy for a long time who have no doubt he's genuine, there are no doubt some who have the opposite view but in the end we just don't have enough information to judge his personality as most is hearsay and opinion imo. 
We have been told he has passed all his test with flying colours and seen an extract from one of these,  would be fascinating to see them all and if there was ever any suspicion of narcissm or psychopathy?  Without these reports any suggestion of psychiopathy can only be conjecture to make an opinion work imo

[Caroline]

I see the reasoning of this but cannot see why Jeremy phoned the police at all, it was so unnecessary imo.  I know the adage that a psychopath is very proud of what they have achieved and often over eggs things because of that.  There is no evidence Jeremy Bamber is a psychopath and there are many people who have been close to Jeremy for a long time who have no doubt he's genuine, there are no doubt some who have the opposite view but in the end we just don't have enough information to judge his personality as most is hearsay and opinion imo. 
We have been told he has passed all his test with flying colours and seen an extract from one of these,  would be fascinating to see them all and if there was ever any suspicion of narcissm or psychopathy?  Without these reports any suggestion of psychiopathy can only be conjecture to make an opinion work imo

The call was made as an alibi - if he's calling the police from Goldhanger, he can't have murdered his family at WHF because he had JUST spoken to his father minutes before his call to police (or so he says) so can't have killed him.

[susan]

Hello Maggie Jeremy phoned the police and Julie to give himself an alibi but what he did in fact by doing this was incriminate himself in the murders this is just my opinion of cause.

[gringo]

If Jeremy dialed 999 after stating he had JUST received a call from his father, the police might get there while he was still on the phone, enter the house,find  everyone had been dead for a while and thr only suspect would be Jeremy because he had just stated he had spoke to a man who must have been deceased at the time.

  Why would dialling 999 mean that the police "might" enter the house but they wouldn't if he dialled the police station directly? As it was the police sped to the incident so why didn't they enter the house and find everybody dead? Is it because Jeremy never called 999?
    What an utterly specious argument. Just because others disagree with your reasoning doesn't make their points weak or desperate but the reasoning you have just used most certainly is.
 

[No-Bits]

  Why would dialling 999 mean that the police "might" enter the house but they wouldn't if he dialled the police station directly? As it was the police sped to the incident so why didn't they enter the house and find everybody dead? Is it because Jeremy never called 999?
    What an utterly specious argument. Just because others disagree with your reasoning doesn't make their points weak or desperate but the reasoning you have just used most certainly is.
 

One of the reasons the police didn't enter straight away, was because of the information obtained from Jeremy whilst at the scene. The information that there were lots and lots of guns in the house, all loaded, all readily available and Sheila was able to use them all.

I'm guessing that Caroline is suggesting that the police would not have been so cautious about entering the house, if Jeremy was not at the scene providing what we now know to be false information.

[nugnug]

  Why would dialling 999 mean that the police "might" enter the house but they wouldn't if he dialled the police station directly? As it was the police sped to the incident so why didn't they enter the house and find everybody dead? Is it because Jeremy never called 999?
    What an utterly specious argument. Just because others disagree with your reasoning doesn't make their points weak or desperate but the reasoning you have just used most certainly is.
 

you would expect the police to act more quickly if you dail 999 but that dosent necessarily mean the will act more quickly.

[Caroline]

  Why would dialling 999 mean that the police "might" enter the house but they wouldn't if he dialled the police station directly? As it was the police sped to the incident so why didn't they enter the house and find everybody dead? Is it because Jeremy never called 999?
    What an utterly specious argument. Just because others disagree with your reasoning doesn't make their points weak or desperate but the reasoning you have just used most certainly is.
 

A 999 number is an emergency number and response to a 999 call is different - hence why it is the 'emergency' number. He had no urgency when he called West but as West kept him hanging on, he started getting more stressed - you could argue that he was worried BUT you could also argue that he was worried that a car had already been sent to the scene and might get there before he had a chance to manipulate things to his advantage.