Surely The Timings Are Incorrect?

[Caroline]

Can you post them please ?

No sorry, there was a video produced by the CT that stated they weren't allowed to show the logs for legal reasons. Obviously due to that, I can't post them here. I did post them and they were here for a few days but when I saw that, I took them down.

[Caroline]

Thank you Gringo and Alias you are correct and let's not forget the Guildford Four and the hidden file

Unfortunately Caroline thinks she knows a lot more than experts that have studied the case


Ewen ?

Why don't you explain the logs Jackie?

[Caroline]

The police hide things because they can!!

It's just a matter of time in this case

What in relation to the logs has been hidden? I've seen the logs that were eventually released - just a few spelling mistakes ....... and?

[Caroline]

It is important because if it is proved that there was a call from Neville then Jeremy is innocent.
   The logs don't prove anything one way or the other but there are discrepancies which deserve better than the explanations thus far offered. As is usual in this case the police refuse to release evidence which would assist in clearing the matter up (in this instance releasing the original logs for esda testing).
    Despite EP's refusal to assist in establishing the truth we are meant to believe their excuses which involve more "mistakes" and "wrong timings" than is feasible.
    When only one side don't want all of the evidence out in the open it is fair to assume that it is they who have most to fear from the truth.

The Neville called the police notion does not stand up it's just more conspiracy theories. I agree they should release all they have and put an end to this once and for all.

Say Neville did call the police ..... he called Jeremy at 03:10, if he called Bonnet at 03:26 what was he doing for the 16 minutes between calling Jeremy and calling Bonnet? Why is the information exactly the same as on Jeremy's log (different words used - same info), why was the line engaged when Jeremy tried to call back if Neville didn't call the police until 16 mins later and still engaged when West tried calling? Then of course there is the notion that the call was never mentioned to anyone - a call that proved that EP's initial take on the case was correct - Sheila was guilty and Jeremy was innocent. Why would this call be kept secret?

[JackiePreece]

Why don't you explain the logs Jackie?

Because they are not relevant either way,  you seem to like going in circles

It's another issue like Jeremy hated his family/Sheila

You know very well if it was cut and dry no solicitor would take on the case

Ngb has given lots of help why don't you ask him

There are much more important issues like the silencer and was it used and who put the silencer where? The files that should be released when it was first thought to be a suicide
The interviews that took place with Julie Mugford that are 'missing ' Ngb thinks they could be important

Taff Jones notes

Caroline how much help did you give JB when you thought he was innocent?

There's lots you could have done ?

Maybe you could fight to get the information held under pii to be released to show JB is GUiLTY

Instead of sitting around every night with your finger over the ban button

It's like your permanently on a power trip

None of the other mods behave like you

[Caroline]

Because they are not relevant either way,  you seem to like going in circles

It's another issue like Jeremy hated his family/Sheila

You know very well if it was cut and dry no solicitor would take on the case

Ngb has given lots of help why don't you ask him

There are much more important issues like the silencer and was it used and who put the silencer where? The files that should be released when it was first thought to be a suicide
The interviews that took place with Julie Mugford that are 'missing ' Ngb thinks they could be important

Taff Jones notes

Caroline how much help did you give JB when you thought he was innocent?

There's lots you could have done ?

Maybe you could fight to get the information held under pii to be released to show JB is GUiLTY

Instead of sitting around every night with your finger over the ban button

It's like your permanently on a power trip

None of the other mods behave like you

Maybe that's what you should be doing instead of sitting here making snide remarks. Power trip? This is just an internet forum Jackie not The Pentagon 

By the way, it shows what you know, Nevile's call is the one thing that would free Jeremy - it would prove that he was alive when Jeremy Called the police from Goldhanger.

[susan]

Caroline I think the post to you is way out of order and totally uncalled for. Can't say I have seen much of you hitting the ban button think this is the first to my knowledge.

[Caroline]

Caroline I think the post to you is way out of order and totally uncalled for. Can't say I have seen much of you hitting the ban button think this is the first to my knowledge.

It's a total of twice Susan and none indefinately. Jackie's got the hump again but I have come to expect it because she can't be civil - her problem!! 

[JackiePreece]

You don't remember hitting the ban button yesterday

You must see a doctor about your memory

Try addressing my post!!!

So you and Susan are 100% guilty on this case

Well Jeremy will think that's a good thing

Not ever the jury were 100%

You and your sidekick are hilarious

[susan]

Caroline don't think Jeremy Bamber will loose any sleep over what you and I think about him  after all none of us on this forum are going to be part of changing what happens to him in the future.

[Caroline]

You don't remember hitting the ban button yesterday

You must see a doctor about your memory

Try addressing my post!!!

So you and Susan are 100% guilty on this case

Well Jeremy will think that's a good thing

Not ever the jury were 100%

You and your sidekick are hilarious

Actually no one hit the ban button on you - it was connected to IP's which were triggered when Adam was banned but trust you to assume it was on purpose  You're not that important Jackie, no conspiracy! Oh and twice included yesterday!

Perhaps you should try addressing the subject at hand and stop trying to orchestrate things round to whatever point you think fit. Power trip? I think it's you who feels they have some special role in this case but you're just another member.

I'm sure Jeremy doesn't care one way or another that Susan or I think he's guilty, after all, we just join the thousands others who think the same. Perhaps you should ask him ....... oh I forgot, he doesn't write to you anymore either.

Try answering the question at hand being as you never even attempt to answer any case related question but I guess you think you're above that.

Question was (just in case you forgot).

Say Neville did call the police ..... he called Jeremy at 03:10, if he called Bonnet at 03:26 what was he doing for the 16 minutes between calling Jeremy and calling Bonnet? Why is the information exactly the same as on Jeremy's log (different words used - same info), why was the line engaged when Jeremy tried to call back if Neville didn't call the police until 16 mins later and still engaged when West tried calling? Then of course there is the notion that the call was never mentioned to anyone - a call that proved that EP's initial take on the case was correct - Sheila was guilty and Jeremy was innocent. Why would this call be kept secret?

[guest7363]

Caroline I think the post to you is way out of order and totally uncalled for. Can't say I have seen much of you hitting the ban button think this is the first to my knowledge.

How do you use the ignore button Susan or somebody use the ban button pleeeeeeeease.

[lookout]

Oh dear,not this nonsense again !

[JackiePreece]

Actually no one hit the ban button on you - it was connected to IP's which were triggered when Adam was banned but trust you to assume it was on purpose  You're not that important Jackie, no conspiracy! Oh and twice included yesterday!

Perhaps you should try addressing the subject at hand and stop trying to orchestrate things round to whatever point you think fit. Power trip? I think it's you who feels they have some special role in this case but you're just another member.

I'm sure Jeremy doesn't care one way or another that Susan or I think he's guilty, after all, we just join the thousands others who think the same. Perhaps you should ask him ....... oh I forgot, he doesn't write to you anymore either.

Try answering the question at hand being as you never even attempt to answer any case related question but I guess you think you're above that.

Question was (just in case you forgot).

Say Neville did call the police ..... he called Jeremy at 03:10, if he called Bonnet at 03:26 what was he doing for the 16 minutes between calling Jeremy and calling Bonnet? Why is the information exactly the same as on Jeremy's log (different words used - same info), why was the line engaged when Jeremy tried to call back if Neville didn't call the police until 16 mins later and still engaged when West tried calling? Then of course there is the notion that the call was never mentioned to anyone - a call that proved that EP's initial take on the case was correct - Sheila was guilty and Jeremy was innocent. Why would this call be kept secret?

So around 2 weeks ago you posted you were not sure Jeremy was guilty and now you are 100% he is guilty

Please fill us in what event has happened in the last couple of weeks to make you 100%

Your behaviour is ridiculous!!  Jeremy must have seen right through you

As I have said you have NEVER achieved anything on this forum proving innocence or guilt

I am the only one to stand up and say it

You sit up every night tapping away on your computer for what exactly

[Jan]

same as the rest of us - because we are still trying to find that final bit of proof either way.

I have done things off the forum to try and help - but to be honest that takes a lot of guts because no one in their right mind could say about a man that is convicted and has had several unsuccessful appeals that you could be 100% sure he is innocent. So there is always a niggling doubt that you could be defending a child murderer.

However I do think that the EP SHOULD release all the info under PII . They should release what is in those 200 boxes .

they could be inspected by independent law students , one box each and they could sign something to say they would only release anything relevant to the defence team.


I find that their reasons for not doing so very suspicious.

IMO