Why Would Essex Police Not Mention The Fact That Neville Called The Police?

[Reader]

If, hypothetically, Pc West publicly admits he did receive a call from Nevill, what would your attitude be? What would you want to be done about Essex Police, the relatives and Julie, and would you continue to post your current views on this forum, and claiming that Pc West had dementia or something?

[Caroline]

If, hypothetically, Pc West publicly admits he did receive a call from Nevill, what would your attitude be? What would you want to be done about Essex Police, the relatives and Julie, and would you continue to post your current views on this forum, and claiming that Pc West had dementia or something?

But he won't because there was no call.

[Reader]

That's the nature of a hypothetical question. I'm asking you what you would do if he did. In that context, your opinion that he won't is irrelevant.

[scipio_usmc]

If, hypothetically, Pc West publicly admits he did receive a call from Nevill, what would your attitude be? What would you want to be done about Essex Police, the relatives and Julie, and would you continue to post your current views on this forum, and claiming that Pc West had dementia or something?

He would have to provide answers to a great number of questions before any such claim would be credible including the ones I posed to you of why would he ask Jeremy the same questions that Nevill would have answered, if Nevill called why he didn't dispatch a car in response to the call, what did he do so far as a log of this clal is concerned, why didn't he write it in his pocketbook, why didn't he mention this call in his statements and his testimony, did he notify someone at HQ Information Room of this call, which police did he notify of this call...

 

[Caroline]

That's the nature of a hypothetical question. I'm asking you what you would do if he did. In that context, your opinion that he won't is irrelevant.

I think your question is mute because it didn't happen. I don't see your point in asking it?

[guest154]

If, hypothetically, Pc West publicly admits he did receive a call from Nevill, what would your attitude be? What would you want to be done about Essex Police, the relatives and Julie, and would you continue to post your current views on this forum, and claiming that Pc West had dementia or something?

Silly question. And what's with the smug ending "claiming PC West had dementia?" It's stupid to ignore evidence, just as it is stupid to try and create it, Reader.

[Caroline]

He would have to provide answers to a great number of questions before any such claim would be credible including the ones I posed to you of why would he ask Jeremy the same questions that Nevill would have answered, if Nevill called why he didn't dispatch a car in response to the call, what did he do so far as a log of this clal is concerned, why didn't he write it in his pocketbook, why didn't he mention this call in his statements and his testimony, did he notify someone at HQ Information Room of this call, which police did he notify of this call...

Em in this instance your 'I' really should be a 'we'.

[Reader]

He would have to provide answers to a great number of questions before any such claim would be credible . . .

Assume my question supposes he publicly admitted receiving Nevill's call, but that all the details beyond that have been given only to the IPCC, who have made no comment. Do you just say his assertion isn't credible and carry on as before?

[No-Bits]

Assume my question supposes he publicly admitted receiving Nevill's call, but that all the details beyond that have been given only to the IPCC, who have made no comment. Do you just say his assertion isn't credible and carry on as before?

That's silly, he hasn't.

Why don't you assume a scenario that Jeremy publicly admits his guilt?

It doesn't work, I know, I'll change the facts. Look everybody it works. 

[Caroline]

Assume my question supposes he publicly admitted receiving Nevill's call, but that all the details beyond that have been given only to the IPCC, who have made no comment. Do you just say his assertion isn't credible and carry on as before?

You're asking us to assume a whole new scenario, one that didn't happen. Here's an idea, why don't you try and look at the logs with a guilty Jeremy in mind - you'll see they make sense but only when viewing as one call - from Jeremy.

[Reader]

A hypothetical question asks about something that could happen. It's irrelevant that it hasn't happened yet. It's not a request that you change your view.

I'm essentially asking how you would react if Pc West became a whistle-blower by saying that Nevill had called, and seeking an investigation via the proper channels.

While that investigation was presumably in progress, would you just carry on posting here as normal with your present views?

[Caroline]

A hypothetical question asks about something that could happen. It's irrelevant that is hasn't happened yet. It's not a request that you change your view.

I'm essentially asking how you would react if Pc West became a whistle-blower by saying that Nevill had called, and seeking an investigation via the proper channels.

While that investigation was presumably in progress, would you just carry on posting here as normal with your present views?

Of course not but that didn't and won't happen because there was no call. I don't see why you're asking the question - it seems silly. Unless of course you are really PC West and are about to make an earth shattering confession?

[Reader]

Let me put it slightly differently: if, hypothetically, Pc Collins admitted that he did see both Nevill and Sheila in the kitchen, and produced good evidence to back that up, what ought to be done about Essex Police and should it still be believed that Nevill didn't call the police? Also, would you continue to post here?

[Jan]

I think if that happened  - then there would be some posters who would gladly put their hands up and admit they were wrong - and tbh would be pleased that the truth - whatever it is - would be finally out .

Some posters would disappear without comment. 

[Caroline]

Let me put it slightly differently: if, hypothetically, Pc Collins admitted that he did see both Nevill and Sheila in the kitchen, and produced good evidence to back that up, what ought to be done about Essex Police and should it still be believed that Nevill didn't call the police? Also, would you continue to post here?

That being the case, Jeremy should be freed immediately and receive a massive comp payout and help to readjust, EP should be hauled over the coals and made an example of. And I would still continue to post here. I would still say that Neville didn't call because it doesn't add up. I see what you're trying to get me to do but it doesn't add up whichever way you look at it because of the timings, the fact that West (or anyone else) didn't mention the call (at any time), because both logs give 'exactly' the same information and Bonnett's log actually states that it was received from West.

Now let me ask you, if Jeremy admitted to being responsible, would you believe him or would you insist that he was only admitting guilt because he knew he'd have a better chance of parole in the future and that the call from Neville was still possible? And would you still post in his defense here?