Why Would Essex Police Not Mention The Fact That Neville Called The Police?

[No-Bits]

How does the legal team view the Campaign team?

What if any communication takes place?

[No-Bits]

In fact that's not fair, it's a bit of a leading question that you shouldn't really be expected to answer. 

[ngb1066]

How does the legal team view the Campaign team?

What if any communication takes place?

The campaign team manage the case documents and have catalogued and indexed them all.  The lawyers who have been involved have had the assistance of the campaign team in providing copies of documents and images.

I cannot speak for any of the lawyers who have been involved in relation to their attitude towards the campaign team.

 

[No-Bits]

The campaign team manage the case documents and have catalogued and indexed them all.  The lawyers who have been involved have had the assistance of the campaign team in providing copies of documents and images.

I cannot speak for any of the lawyers who have been involved in relation to their attitude towards the campaign team.

 

Oh okay, I didn't realise they were the ones in control of the documents,  I just assumed it was the legal team.

That makes it even more difficult to criticise them, if their assistance is required.

[Reader]

Jeremy said he got a call from Neville at 03:10 - so you would imagine that Neville would call the police . . . either before, or 'straight' after his call to Jeremy . . .  However, if he called at 03:26 - that's a full 16 minutes of dong what? And why would the phone be engaged if he didn't call the police until 16 minutes later?

As already pointed out to you, the time of 3:10 that Jeremy gave may well be incorrect, in which case these issues needn't arise.

. . .  there is no threat to national security in releasing the contents of Neville's call for help after his daughter had gone berserk with a gun. Everyone already knew that anyway!

Not everyone knew Nevill had called as well as Jeremy. It's clear that Stan Jones didn't know at first. It seems that very few officers considered Jeremy guilty initially, but numerous details were suppressed anyway to cover up the bungling of the raid teams. Later, it wasn't clear how the relatives could be convinced that Jeremy was innocent without very awkward questions arising about what the raid teams did. It's known that SB got involved, and SB are very prone to secrecy at all times. If there was just one call to the police, how come Pc West just told Jeremy that a car from Witham was on its way? That wouldn't be odd if he'd just arranged it, but car CA07 was despatched by Bonnet according to Bonnett's statement.

[Caroline]

As already pointed out to you, the time of 3:10 that Jeremy gave may well be incorrect, in which case these issues needn't arise.

I think he must have had a pretty good idea so five mins either way - still doesn't work, what was Neville doing between phoning Jeremy and calling the police later and why would he leave the phone off the hook twice?

Not everyone knew Nevill had called as well as Jeremy. It's clear that Stan Jones didn't know at first. It seems that very few officers considered Jeremy guilty initially, but numerous details were suppressed anyway to cover up the bungling of the raid teams. Later, it wasn't clear how the relatives could be convinced that Jeremy was innocent without very awkward questions arising about what the raid teams did. It's known that SB got involved, and SB are very prone to secrecy at all times. If there was just one call to the police, how come Pc West just told Jeremy that a car from Witham was on its way? That wouldn't be odd if he'd just arranged it, but car CA07 was despatched by Bonnet according to Bonnett's statement.

Quite simple, tell them about Neville's called - no need to mention anything about the raid team.

[Reader]

I think the police asserted that they had been called at 3:26am, and possibly also suggested that Julie had been called at 3:15, causing Jeremy to give an earlier time for Nevill's call than he would otherwise have done. It seems he hadn't checked the time early on, and so had to go by what the police were telling him.

The problem with revealing Nevill's call was that attention would then shift to the apparent staging of Sheila's body.

[Caroline]

I think the police asserted that they had been called at 3:26am, and possibly also suggested that Julie had been called at 3:15, causing Jeremy to give an earlier time for Nevill's call than he would otherwise have done. It seems he hadn't checked the time early on, and so had to go by what the police were telling him.

The problem with revealing Nevill's call was that attention would then shift to the apparent staging of Sheila's body.

We're going to have to disagree on the call times Reader, whatever way you look at it, it doesn't fit. It seems the story is being changed in order to make the pieces fit and if you have to force them the picture gets distorted.

I see absolutely no reason why revealing Neville's call would reveal anything other than Neville called and an innocent Jeremy. The two simply don't go together.

[Reader]

In your opinion, who arranged for car CA07 to go to WHF, Pc West or Malcolm Bonnett?

[Caroline]

In your opinion, who arranged for car CA07 to go to WHF, Pc West or Malcolm Bennett?

Malcolm Bonnet

[Reader]

In your opinion, who arranged for car CA05 to go to WHF, Pc West or Malcolm Bonnett?

[Caroline]

In your opinion, who arranged for car CA05 to go to WHF, Pc West or Malcolm Bennett?

Bonnet specifically mentions that CA07 was initiated by him but also adds other cars were sent so they may have been sent in response to either West or Bonnet or as a result of both.

[No-Bits]

In your opinion, who arranged for car CA05 to go to WHF, Pc West or Malcolm Bennett?

Surely you mean Bonnett? 

[Reader]

Yes, I've corrected the spelling.

Pc West testified that he spoke to the HQIR to find out initially where Tolleshunt D'Arcy was covered from and what was the nearest and most available police unit to send to that address. He testified that he was told it was policed by Witham and that he then contacted Witham.

Q  Did you tell them what you had been told?    A.  Yes, I spoke to an officer on the personal radio link between ourselves and Witham Police Station relayed the message that I had received from Mr. Bamber in order that they could respond to it.

Does that sound like Witham had already done the same thing at the behest of Bonnett at HQIR? If Bonnett told Pc West that Witham policed Tolleshunt D'Arcy so that Pc West could contact Witham, why would Bonnett promptly contact Witham himself to do the same thing that he knew that Pc West intended to do?

[Caroline]

Yes, I've corrected the spelling.

Pc West testified that he spoke to the HQIR to find out initially where Tolleshunt D'Arcy was covered from and what was the nearest and most available police unit to send to that address. He testified that he was told it was policed by Witham and that he then contacted Witham.

Q  Did you tell them what you had been told?    A.  Yes, I spoke to an officer on the personal radio link between ourselves and Witham Police Station relayed the message that I had received from Mr. Bamber in order that they could respond to it.

Does that sound like Witham had already done the same thing at the behest of Bonnett at HQIR? If Bonnett told Pc West that Witham policed Tolleshunt D'Arcy so that Pc West could contact Witham, why would Bonnett promptly contact Witham himself to do the same thing that he knew that Pc West intended to do?

He didn't say why he wanted to know who policed THD, he just asked him the question and Bonnett is very specific about which car was initiated by him. I see absolutely no mystery here.