Author Topic: Why Would Essex Police Not Mention The Fact That Neville Called The Police?  (Read 17882 times)

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The campaign team have made a big issue out of it and really haven't thought it through. Sometimes they make things worse for him and just end up sounding desperate.

Maybe now the campaign team or his legal team can enlighten Jeremy by showing him this topic and clue him in on the OBVIOUS by showing him the work you've done?

I think failure to accept what the log actually contains is failure to admit the truth and shows a dis-honest campaign team a dis-honest legal team and a dis-honest Bamber.

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Maybe now the campaign team or his legal team can enlighten Jeremy by showing him this topic and clue him in on the OBVIOUS by showing him the work you've done?

I think failure to accept what the log actually contains is failure to admit the truth and shows a dis-honest campaign team a dis-honest legal team and a dis-honest Bamber.

There are a lot of things floating around like that - but it does work both ways - the guilters use some pretty stupid arguments as well if we are all honest

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There are a lot of things floating around like that - but it does work both ways - the guilters use some pretty stupid arguments as well if we are all honest

Big difference though in the campaign team and his defence in using the phone call to publicly promote an apparent MOJ than there is in guilters posting on forums.  :-\

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. . . when you know that the time on Bonnet's log is 03:26 and both he and West couldn't have made a mistake.
Why couldn't they have made a mistake? We know that Sheila's age was recorded differently, which was a mistake if there was only one call, and Pc West and Malcolm Bonnett later contradicted each other as to who despatched car CA07. Arguing that Pc West would definitely have told Jeremy that his father had already called doesn't suffice. Pc West's priority would have been to log what Jeremy told him and take appropriate action. If Jeremy was guilty, why wouldn't he have dialled 999?

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Why couldn't they have made a mistake? We know that Sheila's age was recorded differently, which was a mistake if there was only one call, and Pc West and Malcolm Bonnett later contradicted each other as to who despatched car CA07. Arguing that Pc West would definitely have told Jeremy that his father had already called doesn't suffice. Pc West's priority would have been to log what Jeremy told him and take appropriate action. If Jeremy was guilty, why wouldn't he have dialled 999?

West DID make a mistake, he admits he may have wrote the time incorrectly. He probably wrote it at the end of the call, he even suggests that such things might happen although they do their best to record the time at the beginning of the call, it doesn't always end up that way. Sheila's age may simply have been misheard by Bonnet.
I'm not really arguing that PC West would have told Jeremy that his father had called - I'm asking WHY if EP knew that Neville had called that they didn't mention the call - even at the beginning when the relatives were accusing Jeremy? Taff Jones WOULD have mentioned it to get them off his back and Stan Jones would never have suspected Jeremy because he would have KNOWN Neville was alive when Jeremy was talking to police in from Goldhanger. I really can't say it any clearer - if you don't have a reason WHY this call was kept secret, then how can you even being to argue that it occurred. Seriously, this is starting to reek of desperation. It's a simply enough question that no one has an answer for.
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Why wasn't only one car sent with there only being one ? call ?

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Why wasn't only one car sent with there only being one ? call ?

Because Jeremy told them there were guns involved, they don't just allocate one car per call, it depends on the situation not the number of callers.
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Because Jeremy told them there were guns involved, they don't just allocate one car per call, it depends on the situation not the number of callers.




Or what was said in the call,as one call mentioned guns,the other didn't.

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Why wasn't only one car sent with there only being one ? call ?

Bonnett was looking for multiple cars to respond because you want a good number of police for a situation like the one described.  The problem is that given the time of day there were not many cars that could be dispatched and the second was far away.  After Sgt Bewes was told that Sheila had an aresenal at her disposal, was crazy and had used all the weapons he requested armed assistance and that is why the first batch of armed officers arrived around 5AM.
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But who was the caller who'd told the police that there were,or was,a gun in use ?

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But who was the caller who'd told the police that there were,or was,a gun in use ?

I don't know what call you men lookout?
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Lookout/Caroline Jeremy Bamber told the police his Father said Sheila had a rifle or words to that effect but I for one do not believe his Father ever phoned him as the poor man was lying dead :(

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Lookout/Caroline Jeremy Bamber told the police his Father said Sheila had a rifle or words to that effect but I for one do not believe his Father ever phoned him as the poor man was lying dead :(

In that case - there was no other call Lookout, it's just two longs for the same call. One from the initial call to West and another when 'West' passed the info to Bonnet. Two logs, one call - from Jeremy.
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But what we have to establish if only one call was made,was how Jeremy was supposed to have returned to Goldhanger from WHF in order to make that call.

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But what we have to establish if only one call was made,was how Jeremy was supposed to have returned to Goldhanger from WHF in order to make that call.

Why do we need to establish that?
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