'9/11' WTC

[handymanz]

With the passage of time the 9/11 debate will probably go the same way as the Kennedy assassination, and the moon landings.  People with opposing theories will just agree to disagree, with the heat having been taken out of the argument.

This is my favorite 9/11 site. I believe the live footage we saw on TV was probably faked.
At the 3min. 30second mark things start to become revealing.
http://www.septemberclues.info/

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=gORu-68SHpE

Another reason I feel sorry for people like Jeremy, is that they are unable to make a truly informed opinion over historical events that happened in their life time.

[nugnug]

why i cant really understand people outside the usa are interested in weather there was a conspiracy to kill an American president or not.

i can understand why its an interesting topic for Americans but why does anyone else give a toss.

[Lithium]

I feel that one side may have presented an accepted 'conspiracy theory' already.  I certainly didn't question the official version.  I now worry that there's far more to the incident than the official version I accepted.  I feel less confident in my previous assumption that both towers collapsed as a direct result of being hit by planes.  I was not previously aware that other WTC structures had collapsed on the same site, without being hit by planes.  I no longer feel UK/USA Govt can be trusted to tell the truth.  I look at the WMD fiasco prior to the Iraq war and I no longer maintain the previous levels of acceptance I once casually adhered to.

Easier to believe when you consider the alternative is that a demolition team fitted the building head -to-toe with explosives before the event without any of 50,000 workers noticing them.

[Roch]

Easier to believe when you consider the alternative is that a demolition team fitted the building head -to-toe with explosives before the event without any of 50,000 workers noticing them.

If any demolition devices (common or otherwise) had been fitted, I doubt the work would have been carried out by operatives wearing 'TNT' logo workwear.  Or ACME...


 

[Roch]

With the passage of time the 9/11 debate will probably go the same way as the Kennedy assassination, and the moon landings.  People with opposing theories will just agree to disagree, with the heat having been taken out of the argument.

This is my favorite 9/11 site. I believe the live footage we saw on TV was probably faked.
At the 3min. 30second mark things start to become revealing.
http://www.septemberclues.info/

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=gORu-68SHpE

Another reason I feel sorry for people like Jeremy, is that they are unable to make a truly informed opinion over historical events that happened in their life time.

The footage of the second plane hitting the 2nd tower is very strange.  It's supposed to be an aluminium plane cutting straight through concrete and steel columns.  The plane does not decelerate upon hitting the tower.  According to the footage it retains the exact same velocity both prior to and after hitting the tower. 

I'm not sure what to make of the ball.

[Jan]

it is interesting information on the video clips - but it is more insinuating a missile attack rather than a plane - but if it was a terrorist attack not quite sure why that would make a difference how it was done?

[nugnug]

i find it very hard to believe they put all those explosives in the building and nobody who worked there would ask any questions as to what they were doing.

someone who worked there would of probably found them before they went off.

[Roch]

it is interesting information on the video clips - but it is more insinuating a missile attack rather than a plane - but if it was a terrorist attack not quite sure why that would make a difference how it was done?

Which video are you referring to, is it the 'September clues' video?  I think the video is claiming that 'terrorists' were not involved, other than in the form of having been made stooges.

I find it very hard to believe they put all those explosives in the building and nobody who worked there would ask any questions as to what they were doing.

Someone who worked there would of probably found them before they went off.

Apparently there are claims that nano-thermite is present in the debris.  Apparently this is an explosive which produces white smoke and can turn steel molten.  Firefighters noted that molten steel was present at the site.  I've seen footage of white smoke also.

This site http://donaldfox.wordpress.com/ argues that the presence of nano-thermite is a 'fig leaf' and that presence of high levels of barium and strontium in various but correlating amounts indicate that nuclear fission occurred at the World Trade Centre.  They cite other factors and wrote an open letter attempting to repudiate another scientist. http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/07/13/open-letter-to-steve-jones-hard-evidence-supports-the-911-mini-nuke-hypothesis/

I'm certainly no scientist.  I can remember making copper sulphate solution at school but struggled with identifying hydrocarbons

[nugnug]

i dont have a clue weather true or not but i still find it hard to believe explosives were placed in there with nobody noticing.

i mean how many people worked in that building.

[Roch]

i dont have a clue weather true or not but i still find it hard to believe explosives were placed in there with nobody noticing.

I mean how may people worked in that building.

Well I suppose the easiest way to carry out such preperation would be under the guise of maintenance work? 

[tyler]

Survivors that worked at the wtc talked of maintenance work being carried out in the lift shafts prior to the collapse.

[Roch]

Survivors that worked at the wtc talked of maintenance work being carried out in the lift shafts prior to the collapse.

I also read that somewhere.  I'm still a bit freaked out by the fake footage of the second plane. 

[Roch]

To believe the official version is to believe the biggest "conspiracy theory" of all.

I agree.  OBL denied having been involved in the attacks.  The Taliban actually offered to hand him over, if the USA provided evidence of his involvement! 

[Roch]

This woman was arrested and imprisoned under the Patriot Act in USA.  She was eventually released but declared mad in the mainstream media.  In this video she tells her own personal story, from the election of GW Bush, to 9/11, to arrest and trial.  She alleges that right from the start, the Bush administration threatened Iraq with war.  Also, that despite the Iraqi intelligence services and governement desperately tried to cooperate with US demands, they (the Iraqis) claimed that the only intelligence circulating about a potential attack on the world trade centre, emanated from the Americans themselves.  She discusses the sanctions on Iraq and it's an eye opener.  Also takes questions from the audience.

[nugnug]

what is hard to explian is the complete falure of amercan air defences that day.