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Offline lookout

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Re: '9/11' WTC
« Reply #30 on: September 08, 2014, 10:51:PM »
I'm watching that now on channel 14. 9/11 The Miracle of Stairway B.

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« Reply #31 on: September 09, 2014, 11:47:AM »
it is interesting information on the video clips - but it is more insinuating a missile attack rather than a plane - but if it was a terrorist attack not quite sure why that would make a difference how it was done?

Simon Shack the author/ maker of September Clues has since revised some of the content of that video.
Now believing that no missile hit the towers, and that all the footage was CGI. Including the Manhattan landscape itself.

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« Reply #32 on: September 09, 2014, 04:15:PM »
Simon Shack the author/ maker of September Clues has since revised some of the content of that video.
Now believing that no missile hit the towers, and that all the footage was CGI. Including the Manhattan landscape itself.

There's a lot to take in and consider.  Truely there is.  The footage of the second plane hitting the towers needs to be viewed by everyone.  It is being claimed that it defies some of the physics in relation to Newton's Third Law.   Some of the footage of this crash appears to be crude animation.

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« Reply #33 on: September 09, 2014, 05:38:PM »
what is hard to explian is the complete falure of amercan air defences that day.

As if the USA would not have contingency plans in place for the Pentagon, Whitehouse and Twin Towers etc being attacked from the air ? 

It is claimed by CIA whistleblower Susan Lindauer that in the run-up to 9/11 they demanded intelligence from Iraq regarding a potential attack from the air on the WTC and even went so far as to threaten Iraq with war, if such an attack later took place and Iraq had not provided them with relevant intelligence. 

In light of this, how should a lack of air defences on the day be interpreted?


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« Reply #34 on: September 10, 2014, 04:57:PM »
I find it hard to belive the american goverment did it themselves... I could believe they knew and let it happen though.

That's an interesting perspective.  What if in January 1995, they discovered the blueprint for a similar concept, while pursuing the terrorist behind the 1993 world trade center bombing? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bojinka_plot

That gives the USA 6 years and 8 months to develop their own plan. 

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« Reply #35 on: September 11, 2014, 08:53:AM »
And the plan was to fake the whole event, via our TV sets.
As Roch has pointed out the second strike was clearly faked. This would mean that no aircraft impacted the  towers, which then leads to the question. What happened to the passengers ?

The passenger manifests were made up using fake names, with a few minor celebrity names such as Berry Berensen & Barbara Olsen thrown in to create some realism.
Some real people may have lent their names to the hoax, who knows what networks these people are actually involved with.

Apply the same methodology to the WTC. A computor program is set up to generate a few thousand fake names, complete with back ground history and fake obituaries.
I can imagine some government insiders becoming involved if they thought there were to be no victims.

We then come to the collapse footage of the WTC itself.
The close up footage of the Towers collapsing wasn't aired on television until some time after the towers had actually collapsed .
At the time of the collapse the TV networks were busily focusing on the Pentagon, the only footage of the Towers shown was from a distance with them engulfed in smoke.

This would be in line with what New Yorkers would have seen of the Towers at the time of collapse. The WTC engulfed in smoke, whilst the demolition/ detonation process was carried out.
Both Towers more than likely demolished simultaneously, the time taken likely to be the same time frame which elapsed (20 or so minutes) between WTC2 then WTC1 to have collapsed, according to what was shown on TV.
After the Towers collapse, our TV screens are bombarded with the close up CGI footage of the Towers collapsing in 10 seconds from the top down, an impossibility.
This was the only way the public could be hopefully fooled into thinking that the towers, had collapsed as a result of being hit high up by 2 large aircraft.
With the aircraft parts no where to be seen, every thing happening in just over the blink of an eye.



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« Reply #36 on: September 11, 2014, 09:19:AM »
Morning hanyman  read your post with interest.  I don't understand this at all what would be the point of faking all of this I have never taken much of an interest in it but after Roch and yourself posting I want to know more of why it would be faked. Thanks for your patience in advance ;D

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« Reply #37 on: September 11, 2014, 09:34:AM »
Susan,Bush wanted an excuse to go to war with Iraq. It is all about oil. Same with Afghanistan and now Syria

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« Reply #38 on: September 11, 2014, 09:40:AM »
Hello tyler  thanks for that what kind of a world are we living in thankful to be stuck up in The Highlands with the sheep ;D XXX

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« Reply #39 on: September 11, 2014, 10:38:AM »
The same question I keep asking myself about the missing Malaysian airline----------where are the passengers ? Over 100 landing strips in and around the area where contact was lost.

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« Reply #40 on: September 11, 2014, 11:00:AM »
Susan,Bush wanted an excuse to go to war with Iraq. It is all about oil. Same with Afghanistan and now Syria

Added to this the WTC Towers were a white elephant, possibly riddled with asbestos problems and maybe never fully completed, except for the observation decks and eateries on the top floors.

It's possible that they were never tenanted, except for a few floors occupied by the Port Authority.

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« Reply #41 on: September 11, 2014, 11:23:AM »
 The second plane looked as though it was " on strings ",a puppet theatre shot. It looked weird.

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« Reply #42 on: September 11, 2014, 12:06:PM »
Susan,Bush wanted an excuse to go to war with Iraq. It is all about oil. Same with Afghanistan and now Syria

So said Billy Bragg.  :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjAhlh23zPM

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« Reply #43 on: September 17, 2014, 06:00:PM »
Havent had a chance to reply to some of the posts on this thread but hope to do so soon. 

Does anybody know about  World Trade Centre building 7 collapsing on 9/11?  It was not hit by any planes.  WTC7 was on the same complex as twin towers. 




The blurb underneath the video gives some info:

This video tracks the motion of the NW corner of Building 7 of the World Trade Center on 9/11 2001. The building was in freefall for a period of ~2.5 seconds. This means it was falling through itself for over 100 feet with zero resistance, an impossibility in any natural scenario. This period of freefall is solid evidence that explosives had to be used to bring the building down. In the final draft for public comment (August 2008) NIST denied that WTC7 fell at freefall. In the final report in Nov 2008 they reversed themselves and admitted freefall, but denied its obvious significance.
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[The WTC7 series has elicited a number of questions from people unclear on the details of how I did the measurements, compared to how NIST did them and how the representatives of NIST described their measurements. I have therefore created a WTC7 Measurement FAQ page: http://www.911speakout.org/WTC7-Measu... . I will also use this FAQ as a place of reference for other questions that arise as well.]


My new DVD: "9/11 Analysis" is now out. Go to http://www.911speakout.org

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« Reply #44 on: September 18, 2014, 01:48:PM »
This is an architects & engineers video regarding World Trade Centre 7.  The 47 storey building that collapsed on 9/11 in under 7 seconds.  The building was in the same complex as the twin towers.