Its not a case that Jeremy is guilty its a case of incompetence!

[Jane]

So if you are in your house and suddenly a stranger appears in front of you then you are going to open your arms to him as opposed to screaming at him to go away?

But it wasn't Sheila's house. It was her parents' house, moreover it was a FARM house and as such there would be people in and out all day long. A more normal reaction would have been to ask what he wanted and/or call her mother, NOT scream at him to get off HER property.

[Jane]

It occurred to me last night that you said GlaxoSmithCline no longer made a 200mg injection of Haloperidol "BECAUSE IT IS TOO DANGEROUS". This is at variance with your earlier assertion that 200 mg was no more efficacious than 100mg. That aside, my point, and this appears to be one you side step, is that a young locum would have been WELL outside the boundaries by ignoring/countermanding a consultants instructions about the dosage of medication he deemed appropriate for his patient. The correct procedure would have been to check with him first.

[Alias]

So if you are in your house and suddenly a stranger appears in front of you then you are going to open your arms to him as opposed to screaming at him to go away?

A meter man? I wouldn´t scream at him to go away, come on, what do you take me for?!
This wasn´t Sheila´s home, it was her parents´ farmhouse in broad daylight, Sheila was not alone in the house, can´t imagine it would have been unusual for farm staff to enter the house occasionally.
Her reaction was totally over the top crazy. Man was scared to death of her and locked himself in his car...
June came and brought Sheila away, then excused to the meter man and said that Sheila hadn´t been takin her medication and was not well.

[lookout]

 I bet that man never forgot that in a hurry. It's the last thing you'd expect to happen.
Imagine what her mum and dad had to cope with at their age ? Too much for them.

[nugnug]

I have not seen anything credible about the nunnery claim to know if anything at all happened let alone what.  I'm not commenting on it unless someone cna provide some evidence tha tsomething actually happened and what it was that happened.

The meter man incident was not a psychotic episode.  They had a deal with the meter man where he was able to go get the spare key himself and let himself in the house unannounced.  I don't even understand why one would lock the house if you hide the key outside and let so many strangers know where but so be it.  He let himself in and as he was walking through to the meter, which presumably was in the basement, he encountered Sheila.  She saw a stranger who she thought was an intruder and screamed at him to leave.  A woman scremaing upon seeing an intruder is natural.  I fail to see how this is supposed to establish anything so far as her mental health is concerned.

the meter would of had a unfirom on saying he was the meter man so could be mistaken by any sane person for an intruder.

so it really cant be called anything other than a psychotic episode.

[scipio_usmc]

A meter man? I wouldn´t scream at him to go away, come on, what do you take me for?!
This wasn´t Sheila´s home, it was her parents´ farmhouse in broad daylight, Sheila was not alone in the house, can´t imagine it would have been unusual for farm staff to enter the house occasionally.
Her reaction was totally over the top crazy. Man was scared to death of her and locked himself in his car...
June came and brought Sheila away, then excused to the meter man and said that Sheila hadn´t been takin her medication and was not well.

We don't know how he was dressed and if she realized he was a meterman. In the NY area alone periodically there are stories of criminals who have claimed to be metermen who robbed and even raped. It is used as an excuse to get inside.  In some of the cases 1 would keep the homewowner occupied while the other ran to the bedroom to look for lewelry and money.  In others upon entry they accosted the resident. To scream and yell at an intruder who entered unannounced is quite natural regardless of what you want to pretend. An overreaction would be shooting them in the back as they run away form your property.       

[Jane]

We don't know how he was dressed and if she realized he was a meterman. In the NY area alone periodically there are stories of criminals who have claimed to be metermen who robbed and even raped. It is used as an excuse to get inside.  In some of the cases 1 would keep the homewowner occupied while the other ran to the bedroom to look for lewelry and money.  In others upon entry they accosted the resident. To scream and yell at an intruder who entered unannounced is quite natural regardless of what you want to pretend. An overreaction would be shooting them in the back as they run away form your property.     

I can quite see why, based on your experiences of the NY area, you think screaming would have been a sensible course of action. However, this was a farmhouse in the Essex countryside and from my own experience of farmhouses, the kitchen area is open house and free for all. It's frequently the first port of call for a tradesman because it doubles up as an office. The postman, the milkman, the surgery rep, as well as those with farm business, ALL walk into the kitchen. My friend's family has lived in and farmed from their 15th century farmhouse for generations. As yet, no one has walked into their kitchen and robbed them.

It may be a natural reaction for Americans to scream and yell at someone who walks, unannounced, into their homes, but I can assure you, it isn't what we do. Sheila's reaction was entirely inappropriate and may have contributed to why June told Pam that she was concerned about her.

[lookout]

Yanks by their very nature are loud and noisy,whereas we here tend to be more reserved and stoical.

[Alias]

I think the English are very noisy! LOL Sorry, but I do. 

Anyway, scipio needs to make the meter man incident seem like a "normal" reaction. He can´t have anything that indicates that Sheila was having a meltdown. Doesn´t fit into his narrative.

[lookout]

I think the English are very noisy! LOL Sorry, but I do. 

Anyway, scipio needs to make the meter man incident seem like a "normal" reaction. He can´t have anything that indicates that Sheila was having a meltdown. Doesn´t fit into his narrative.

I can agree about the English being noisy,but in an international airport American voices can be heard above all, even some foreigners have adopted an American tone,those who've either lived there,trained there or attended uni there. My g/sons' Dutch girlfriend speaks American because she was brought up by American au-pairs and she's ever so loud,but she's obviously also fluent in her own native language.
G/son registered as a Dutch citizen too a couple of years ago.

[Jan]

I am not even convinced he is American .

[Caroline]

I am not even convinced he is American .

He hasn't slipped up in his spelling or in his use of 'Americanisms' (such as comforter instead of duvet). I'd say he was American - besides, why would he lie, that would just be odd.

[Jan]

He hasn't slipped up in his spelling or in his use of 'Americanisms' (such as comforter instead of duvet). I'd say he was American - besides, why would he lie, that would just be odd.

weirder things have happened.

Perhaps its because I just don't "get him" full stop.

rude and arrogant.

[scipio_usmc]

It occurred to me last night that you said GlaxoSmithCline no longer made a 200mg injection of Haloperidol "BECAUSE IT IS TOO DANGEROUS". This is at variance with your earlier assertion that 200 mg was no more efficacious than 100mg. That aside, my point, and this appears to be one you side step, is that a young locum would have been WELL outside the boundaries by ignoring/countermanding a consultants instructions about the dosage of medication he deemed appropriate for his patient. The correct procedure would have been to check with him first.

More than 100MG for any length of time is not considered safe.  The health risks MIGHT in some extreme cases have been deemed worthwhile to endure IF 200MG were significantly more effective than a lower dose.  But since it is not significantly more effective there is no real benefit simply harm caused by it. 

It would be like a doctor prescribing a dose of high blood pressure medicine that causes other long term effects instead of a lesser dose even that causes less problems even though both doses have virtually the same effectiveness at controlling high blood pressure.  That constitutes malpractice and a drug company manufacturing such could be sued as well. Low demand and threat of lawsuit equals discontinuing the product.     

[scipio_usmc]

I am not even convinced he is American .

Why would I pretend to be an American? MAYBE, and even then it is a stretch, if this were an American board someone would want to pretend to be an American because they think it would give them more credence in some particular claim.  But this isn't so there is not even a conceivable benefit to pretending to be American.