Grannie Speakman :

[nugnug]

Jeremy knew June was thinking of changing her will to include include the twins.

He may have been aware or anticipating that Grannie Speakman had been persuaded or was being persuaded to change her will.

This would have driven him mad.

wherers your source for this.

[Adam]

I have seen the Wikipedia statement.

That is Jeremy trying his luck 17 years later.

At trial it would surely have not been hard to prove that Jeremy was going to inherit a good amount from MS. That would put reasonable doubt into jurors. The prosecutions main motive has been discredited.

[nugnug]

he couldent of brought the case if he dident stand to inherit the money.

[Adam]

wherers your source for this.

It is in the trial transcripts. Mary Mugford testified that Jeremy told her June was thinking about amending her will to give the twins a big share. Thread already created.

[Jan]

I have seen the Wikipedia statement.

That is Jeremy trying his luck 17 years later.

At trial it would surely have not been hard to prove that Jeremy was going to inherit a good amount from MS. That would put reasonable doubt into jurors. The prosecutions main motive has been discredited.

If you were innocent you would try and claim what was rightfully yours - and of course he could not prove it to the jurors because the will had all ready been changed  He was trying to say that undue influence had been applied.

I am not sure whether or not he knew he was even in her will ? Perhaps some other sympathetic family member told him afterwards?

perhaps someone knows on here - I don't I am being honest.

[nugnug]

unless that amount of money was promised the court of heard the case.

[Jan]

he couldent of brought the case if he dident stand to inherit the money.

exactly - I guess he failed because he could not PROVE or WHY  how they persuaded her to change the will.

[lookout]

 Of course not,nugs. He'd have known that as soon as the cuffs went on him,that he'd relinquish every penny. Nobody in their right mind is going to think on those lines,unless they feel that they've got nothing to live for !!

[Jan]

It is in the trial transcripts. Mary Mugford testified that Jeremy told her June was thinking about amending her will to give the twins a big share. Thread already created.

oh - the mugfords again.

Well lets hope they took their oaths very seriously then because I guess there is no one else who can verify that conversation is there ?

If Jeremy is innocent I thought the reports were that he actually got on well with the twins anyway , so IF it was true they were being added then he may not have had a problem anyway.

[nugnug]

exactly - I guess he failed because he could not PROVE or WHY  how they persuaded her to change the will.

he would of had to have proved that she was ethere of unsound mind or that she hadent done it of her own free will.

of course there was no way of proving that.

[Adam]

If you were innocent you would try and claim what was rightfully yours - and of course he could not prove it to the jurors because the will had all ready been changed  He was trying to say that undue influence had been applied.

I am not sure whether or not he knew he was even in her will ? Perhaps some other sympathetic family member told him afterwards?

perhaps someone knows on here - I don't I am being honest.

I never expected to be in my grandparents will. I wasn't.

I expected to be in my mothers & step fathers will. I was.

If Jeremy was not expecting to be included in MS  will, then there is no motivation 'not' to kill.

[nugnug]

we have already proved he was expecting to be included.

[Caroline]

Source Wikipedia

Bamber launched two unsuccessful lawsuits while in prison to recover a share of his family's estate. In 2003 he began a High Court action to recover £1.2m from the estate of his adoptive grandmother, Mabel Speakman, arguing that he should have inherited her home at Carbonnells Farm, Wix, Essex, and that he was owed 17 years' back rent from his cousins who were living there.[21] Speakman had cut Bamber out of her will when he was arrested, and most of the inheritance went to Pamela Boutflour, June Bamber's sister.[22] Boutflour subsequently moved into Carbonnells Farm with her husband, Robert.[21] In 2004 Bamber went to the High Court again to claim a share of the profits from the family's caravan site in Maldon. He had retained his shares after his conviction, but had sold them to pay the legal costs arising from his claim on his grandmother's estate. The court ruled that he was not entitled to any profit from the site because of his conviction

He would surely have ONLY made such an inheritance after the death of his parents, given that it was 'their' share which would have moved to him on their death. Rather that not having any special motive for killing his parents because he would inherit from his grandmother - this is more reason to kill the family to not only receive inheritance from their deaths, but also their share from his gran's will upon her death.

[Adam]

That is a good point.

Committing the massacre would mean his inheritance would be substantially increased when MS dies.

[susan]

Adam I never expected to be in anyone's will and I was right because I was'ent