Grannie Speakman :

[Adam]

Before joining this forum, I had never read anything about Grannie Speakman.

Nothing in the trial transcripts, interview transcripts, internet articles, Jeremy's OS, Wilkes's book, appeal transcripts or Youtube videos.

However people on this forum are saying Jeremy was going to inherit a large amount of money from his grannie. This would mean other 'closer'  relatives may have been bypassed.

There has never been any evidence posted on this forum saying Jeremy was going to inherit. Has anyone got a source or evidence ? And was Jeremy aware ?

Thank you.

[susan]

Morning Adam

harters posted last week that the Estate of Grannie Speakman would have gone to June and Ralph Bamber but who am I to say

[Adam]

There is no way Neville & June would have passed it onto Jeremy and Sheila.

Both had been financial supported enough over the years.

[Adam]

One possibility was Jeremy and Sheila were going to inherit a decent amount from their grannies will.

However Neville and June persuaded Mabel Speakman to amend her will. Sheila was already being totally supported & it was time for Jeremy to continue working, after 15 months of financed travelling.

If Jeremy had thought this had happened, he would have gone mad.

[Jane]

Adam, there is one VERY good reason why money is left to grandchildren as opposed to children and it involves money. My Great Uncle and my late partner BOTH bypassed their children in favour of their grandchildren, I believe, because their children were wealthy in their own rights, for tax purposes.

[Jan]

One possibility was Jeremy and Sheila were going to inherit a decent amount from their grannies will.

However Neville and June persuaded Mabel Speakman to amend her will. Sheila was already being totally supported & it was time for Jeremy to continue working, after 15 months of financed travelling.

If Jeremy had thought this had happened, he would have gone mad.

Source?

Are you asking or stating?

Make your self clearer.

[Adam]

Source?

Are you asking or stating?

Make your self clearer.

I am suggesting read the words 'One possibility'.

[lookout]

My children received more money than I did when my husband died,because his father had left money in trust for our children ( his grandchildren ) which they could only have on the death of my husband,and the money invested yielded nearly 30 years interest on top of the original amount which was left to them.

[Jan]

I am suggesting read the words 'One possibility'.

I don't think there is any point in debating a possibility .

As Jeremy tried to unsuccessfully launch a legal case about the inheritance I suggest there is some research to be done.

these things are never that black and white.

[Caroline]

He didn't know for sure how much (if anything) he would inherit from MS, this wasn't the case with his parents - he knew exactly how much.

[Adam]

Jeremy knew June was thinking of changing her will to include include the twins.

He may have been aware or anticipating that Grannie Speakman had been persuaded or was being persuaded to change her will.

This would have driven him mad.

[Jan]

Source Wikipedia

Bamber launched two unsuccessful lawsuits while in prison to recover a share of his family's estate. In 2003 he began a High Court action to recover £1.2m from the estate of his adoptive grandmother, Mabel Speakman, arguing that he should have inherited her home at Carbonnells Farm, Wix, Essex, and that he was owed 17 years' back rent from his cousins who were living there.[21] Speakman had cut Bamber out of her will when he was arrested, and most of the inheritance went to Pamela Boutflour, June Bamber's sister.[22] Boutflour subsequently moved into Carbonnells Farm with her husband, Robert.[21] In 2004 Bamber went to the High Court again to claim a share of the profits from the family's caravan site in Maldon. He had retained his shares after his conviction, but had sold them to pay the legal costs arising from his claim on his grandmother's estate. The court ruled that he was not entitled to any profit from the site because of his conviction

[Jan]

Jeremy knew June was thinking of changing her will to include include the twins.

He may have been aware or anticipating that Grannie Speakman had been persuaded or was being persuaded to change her will.

As far as we are aware she only changed her will after Jeremy was arrested ( not found guilty) and if you read Annes statements ( and I have only seen the ones on here so it may not be the full picture) We do not know what MS was ever told about Jeremy . It is sort of glossed over.

I have not seen the other family statements about why she changed her will before he was found guilty.

[lookout]

 There would also have been a tidy little amount of back-tax added to the coffers as well. Some investment is taxed at source,but there's a lot that isn't. Didn't everyone do well ?

[Jane]

Jeremy knew June was thinking of changing her will to include include the twins.

He may have been aware or anticipating that Grannie Speakman had been persuaded or was being persuaded to change her will.

Parents, in my own experience, frequently threaten children with disinheritance to make them tow the parental line. Whether they would actually carry the threat through is another question.