Why did Jeremy phone Chelmsford police station ?

[Adam]

Following on from my 'Why didn't Neville or Jeremy call the Folkes's'  thread, is the other important question -'Why did Jeremy call Chelmsford police station ?

Witham police station was seven miles nearer. It was also quicker to dial 999. The time they would have taken to patch him through to the correct station would have been a lot quicker. Jeremy's WS said he received Neville's call at 3:10am. But he did not phone the police until 3:26am. That is 16 minutes looking for the phone number of Chelmsford police station.

Jeremy said it 'did not occur to him' to dial 999 or the Folkes's. But even then he did not call Witham police station. Or drive to Witham Police station and ask them to attend WHF with him.

It is possible Jeremy thought there was more chance of the police picking him up if police cars left from Chelmsford police station. Or that he wanted to delay things as long as possible.

Why do people think Jeremy decided to spend 16 minutes looking for the phone number of Chelmsford police station ?

[scipio_usmc]

Following on from my 'Why didn't Neville or Jeremy call the Folkes's'  thread, is the other important question -'Why did Jeremy call Chelmsford police station ?

Witham police station was seven miles nearer. It was also quicker to dial 999. The time they would have taken to patch him through to the correct station would have been a lot quicker. Jeremy's WS said he received Neville's call at 3:10am. But he did not phone the police until 3:26am. That is 16 minutes looking for the phone number of Chelmsford police station.

Jeremy said it 'did not occur to him' to dial the police or the Folkes's. But even then he did not call Witham police station. Or drive to Witham Police station.

It is possible Jeremy thought there was more chance of the police picking him up if police cars left from Chelmsford police station. Or that he wanted to delay things as long as possible.

Why do people think Jeremy decided to spend 16 minutes looking for the phone number of Chelmsford police station ?

He claimed he dialed Witham but no one answered so he then had to look up Chelmsford's number.

If he actually called Witham as claimed and no one answered and he really was calling because nevill had phoned him then after that he should have called 999 not looked up another station that might not have anyone manning the phones.  Plus he was losing time by looking up the numbers instead of just dialling 999.

 

[Adam]

One option for Jeremy was to drive straight to Witham police station, tell them about the phone call and request support from 2 or 3 officers at WHF. They could all drive together.

That would not take 16 minutes.

However the problem here is it does not put him at his cottage. Being picked up, does.

[Jane]

One option for Jeremy was to drive straight to Witham police station, tell them about the phone call and request support from 2 or 3 officers at WHF.

That would not take 16 minutes.

I imagine it would have taken very much longer.

[JackiePreece]

In hindsight probably yes but that does not make him a murderer
As I have said before Jeremy obviously didn't realise the gravity of the situation and Sheila had never gone crazy with a gun

[lookout]

 Car engine would have been warm and he'd have been blamed anyway because then,they'd have said he'd driven straight from WHF after killing the family. Whatever he did was wrong in their eyes,but cocky,arrogant,calm,lacked emotion didn't make him a murderer nor say that he did it.

[maggie]

He claimed he dialed Witham but no one answered so he then had to look up Chelmsford's number.

If he actually called Witham as claimed and no one answered and he really was calling because nevill had phoned him then after that he should have called 999 not looked up another station that might not have anyone manning the phones.  Plus he was losing time by looking up the numbers instead of just dialling 999.

But scipio just because he looked up the number and called Chelmsford after failing to get a reply from Witham doesn't make him a murderer. You say he SHOULDN'T have done that but SHOULD have diled 999. Just because he behaved differently than you believe he should have actually proves nothing. It's just your opinion.

[Adam]

Has anyone got a source that he dialled Witham ?

It is not in his WS or interview transcripts.

[maggie]

One option for Jeremy was to drive straight to Witham police station, tell them about the phone call and request support from 2 or 3 officers at WHF. They could all drive together.

That would not take 16 minutes.

However the problem here is it does not put him at his cottage. Being picked up, does.

OR in hindsight it was possibly an option but not one he even considered, so what is your point?

[JackiePreece]

Why are you doing this?

It is not disputed that Jeremy rang local police not 999

Maybe he thought the local bobby could sort it out and save his father a magistrate from embarrassment or Sheila would have had the twins taken away

You do not have dispute facts which everyone on here knows about anyway

[Adam]

OR in hindsight it was possibly an option but not one he even considered, so what is your point?

It is another option for Jeremy -

Going to WHF himself.

Phoning the Folkes's.

Phoning Witham.

Driving to Witham.

Dialling 999.


But he dialled Chelmsford police station. Can't see myself phoning a police station miles away if I was in that situation.

[grahameb]

One option for Jeremy was to drive straight to Witham police station, tell them about the phone call and request support from 2 or 3 officers at WHF. They could all drive together.

That would not take 16 minutes.

However the problem here is it does not put him at his cottage. Being picked up, does.

I still can't find the statement that he asked to be picked up?
You should by the way understand the nature of emergency calls. As to whether Jeremy dialled 999 or indeed phoned Chelmsford police they must have interpreted it as an emergency call. The reason I say that is this. When a person dials 999 the operator immediately puts the call through to either a mobile unit, or a unit that is standing by and that unit is dispatched immediately, even though the civilian officer on the other end continues to talk to you. This sometimes gives the impression that they are not doing much and are delaying the police in reaching the scene by continually talking.
What the officer at the othe end of the phone is actually doing is getting as much detail from you as possible.
Bamber was obviously doing this. Officers need to be warned of any impending danger that may be a hinderance or threat to them when they arrive. I suspect that if Bamber had not updated the officers he no doubt will be condemed in the same way?

[Adam]

Why are you doing this?

It is not disputed that Jeremy rang local police not 999

Maybe he thought the local bobby could sort it out and save his father a magistrate from embarrassment or Sheila would have had the twins taken away

You do not have dispute facts which everyone on here knows about anyway

I am discussing the case.

Do you have the source which says he dialled Witham police station.

It does not say this in his WS or Interview transcripts.

[maggie]

It is another option for Jeremy -

Going to WHF himself.

Phoning the Folkes's.

Phoning Witham.

Driving to Witham.
Dialling 999.
But he dialled Chelmsford police station. Can't see myself phoning a police station miles away
if I was in that situation.

Adam you weren't in that situation, you have no idea how Jeremy reached the decision to phone Chelmsford PS. Just because he didn't do what you THINK he should have done proves nothing, pointless argument imo

[Adam]

All the other options for Jeremy were quicker. But I forgot Jeremy was not in a hurry.