Jeremy's Debts

[Alias]

Jeremy could (irrationally) have been angry with Crispy for being alive when his whole family had been wiped out in that house.

[Caroline]

Jeremy could (irrationally) have been angry with Crispy for being alive when his whole family had been wiped out in that house.

Well, you'd have thought he would have been angry with Sheila (I know I would if she'd just killed my mum and dad) but there's nothing to suggest he was overtly angry about what she's supposed to have done.

[Alias]

OK, you 'could' put it down to shock but lets take the phone call. His dad calls him early hours of the morning saying Sheila had the gun come quick. I can buy the fact that he might have been confused about what to do but once he'd decided the police should be called - why not 999? I have never been able to answer this with an adequate reason that doesn't sound as though I'm making excuses for him. What would you do? Thumb through the phone book looking for a local number or dial 999? I know what I would do.

Jeremy knew that Sheila had "episodes"; he knew that his parents liked to keep things private. I think he was clueless as to what to do - and that is the reason he called Julie. He wanted her to tell him what to do. When she didn´t, he went for a compromise and called the local station. I think he could have been afraid that Nevill would get angry at him for calling the police.

I think that Jeremy was quite depedent on other people - his parents did everything for him and Sheila, they even took decicions for them. They never learned to think for themselves.

What would be the difference anyway, from a guilty perspective, to call a local station or 999? The end result would be the same - police at the scene.

[Alias]

Well, you'd have thought he would have been angry with Sheila (I know I would if she'd just killed my mum and dad) but there's nothing to suggest he was overtly angry about what she's supposed to have done.

That is strange, I´ll go with that.

[Adam]

Sounds like someone totally confused and in shock.

I'm certainly confused.

[JackiePreece]

I don't think Jeremy realised the gravity of the situation
It sounds like Sheila had gone a bit crazy a few times
Jeremy's father rang him instead of the police because Sheila would have lost custody of the boys if social services had been told about the incident


I agree Alias

[Alias]

I'm certainly confused.

I know you are! 

[grahameb]

I know you are! 

At least he admitting it at last.

[grahameb]

Isn´t this a Shi Tzu?

Anyway - Colin was under suspicion for a time because he....... drumroll....... didn´t seem to be grieving.
I don´t think you should read anything into such things, seriously!

It would be if there was only one dog in the zoo.

[lookout]

 Yes,that's right.If the police had ever been contacted at all due to Sheilas' episodes,the children would have been taken. Maybe this is why Neville didn't like officialdom because of the power that these people had,and he would have known that. 

[Adam]

Good question Adam but by the same token why didn't Jeremy shoot Crispy, he obviously didn't like him, it would have been easier to just shoot him surely?

Lots of reasons.

Jeremy quietly entered the house and crept upstairs. Crispy may have slept through this.

If Crispy woke during Neville's brutal beating, Jeremy had much more important things to worry about than chasing a dog. June, Sheila & the twins were probably all still alive.

It is much more likely Sheila would madly fire at a barking and moving dog that would do nothing to calm her rage.

[Adam]

I don't think Jeremy realised the gravity of the situation
It sounds like Sheila had gone a bit crazy a few times
Jeremy's father rang him instead of the police because Sheila would have lost custody of the boys if social services had been told about the incident


I agree Alias

There is no evidence to show this is the case.

Why didn't Jeremy or Neville call Dorothy or Leonsrd Folks ? Thread already created.

[scipio_usmc]

It would be if there was only one dog in the zoo.

I don't get it.

[Adam]

You know Leonard & Dorothy Folkes. Don't you ?

They had been working for the Bambers for 36 years.

Dorothy testified that Jeremy said 'he didn't get on with his Sheila. And that he 'would not share his money with Sheila'. If anything happened to the family Jeremy would 'sell the whole lot and pack up'.

Leonard testified that he saw Sheila and the twins the day before the shootings. He said 'she looked happy enough to me'.

What is also interesting is that is that they both lived in a tied cottage at WHF. Surely the best people for Neville to ring when Sheila went 'crazy'.

They were already there. They knew Neville & Sheila & there were two of them. They probably had a key and unlike Jeremy,  Neville trusted them, otherwise they would not be working for him. For 36 years.

Forget about keeping it in the family. Sheila had 'gone crazy & had got the gun'. Anyway, working for a family business for 36 years and you are practically family.

But Neville made a mysterious call to Jeremy. Who said himself he 'did not get on' with Sheila.

And why didn't Jeremy call the Folkes's, instead of Julie and a police station miles away ? Jeremy said it did not occur to him.

Why do people think Neville or Jeremy did not phone two people who were already at WHF ?

[grahameb]

Lots of reasons.

Jeremy quietly entered the house and crept upstairs. Crispy may have slept through this.

If Crispy woke during Neville's brutal beating, Jeremy had much more important things to worry about than chasing a dog. June, Sheila & the twins were probably all still alive.

It is much more likely Sheila would madly fire at a barking and moving dog that would do nothing to calm her rage.

Wow! You do come up with some wild stories Adam and you and your ilk claim that the Bamber supporters make up stories. Yeah I'm sure a small yappie type dog would not hear someone climbing through a window. ROFLMAO.