the raid team enter whf 2 hours after daylight.

[grahameb]

her gender went a long way a man less likely to be credible.

I'll give you this. She was a very convincing liar. But read the first testimony that Patti posted and maybe you will get a better idea as to the type of person she was/is?

[mertol22]

I'll give you this. She was a very convincing liar. But read the first testimony that Patti posted and maybe you will get a better idea as to the type of person she was/is?

I can look at someone and have a guess who that person is in this case I was not fooled or sold so easily.

[nugnug]

well im not sure she really was.

i mean anyone can be a convincing liar if they have told what to say and how to say it.

[lookout]

I can look at someone and have a guess who that person is in this case I was not fooled or sold so easily.

Me neither Mertol.

[scipio_usmc]

I'll give you this. She was a very convincing liar. But read the first testimony that Patti posted and maybe you will get a better idea as to the type of person she was/is?

What evidence do you have that she lied?

[nugnug]

well the strangling rats bit is a rather obvious lie.

[lookout]

well the strangling rats bit is a rather obvious lie.

Of course it's a lie,unless it was already dead and he'd pretended to strangle it,but I can't even imagine he'd handle one somehow.

[scipio_usmc]

well the strangling rats bit is a rather obvious lie.

Post precisely what she alleged with respect to the rats. 

I have caught rats with a box and then picked them up (wearing gloves because I didn't want to touch them) .  I suppose if I were rotten I could have strangled them instead of tossing them in the water to let them swim away.

Whether her claims are impossible and obvious lies depends on what precisely she claimed.     

[grahameb]

What evidence do you have that she lied?

What evidence do you have that she didn't?

[scipio_usmc]

Of course it's a lie,unless it was already dead and he'd pretended to strangle it,but I can't even imagine he'd handle one somehow.

Well did she say it was alive and he killed it or that he was practicing on dead rats?

I'd never handle one with my bare hands unless forced to do but I woudl not kill my family either so...

Some of them have sharp nails which is a reaosn beyond being scared of rabies that I would only use gloves. Rats are different sizes too I saw a water rat bigger than some small dogs and that thing I would not go near.  Were they just plain little rats or what.

 

[grahameb]

Post precisely what she alleged with respect to the rats. 

I have caught rats with a box and then picked them up (wearing gloves because I didn't want to touch them) .  I suppose if I were rotten I could have strangled them instead of tossing them in the water to let them swim away.

Whether her claims are impossible and obvious lies depends on what precisely she claimed.   

So he didn't strangle rats then? It is only yet another story made up by the biased guilty brigate in order to blacken his name. Well I never. You are contuing to unwittingly reveal the lies put about by the biased guilty party.

[scipio_usmc]

What evidence do you have that she didn't?

You asserted she was lying I have no need to prove a negative but you do need to have evidence to prove she lied unless you jsut want to admit you have no evidence and simply don't want to believe her period like nug which fails to achieve anything.

[scipio_usmc]

So he didn't strangle rats then? It is only yet another story made up by the biased guilty brigate in order to blacken his name. Well I never. You are contuing to unwittingly reveal the lies put about by the biased guilty party.

Let's see the exact claims because you and your brethren so far have a hsistory of claiming things that don't bear out including the claim Boutflour had somethign up his sleeve that no one coudl find any evidence was actually said.

[nugnug]

Post precisely what she alleged with respect to the rats. 

I have caught rats with a box and then picked them up (wearing gloves because I didn't want to touch them) .  I suppose if I were rotten I could have strangled them instead of tossing them in the water to let them swim away.

Whether her claims are impossible and obvious lies depends on what precisely she claimed.   

she cliamed he strangled rats with his bare hands.

now anyone who knows a bit about knows this is complete rubbish.

[grahameb]

You asserted she was lying I have no need to prove a negative but you do need to have evidence to prove she lied unless you jsut want to admit you have no evidence and simply don't want to believe her period like nug which fails to achieve anything.

You you do and it is not a negative her testimony was believed by 10 of the jury. But I do not believe her and the reason why I believe that she was lying is that there is absolutely no one to back up the story that Jeremy told her the things she claims he told her in private. He denies he told her anything. It is I who do not have to prove a negative it is you you have to.