the raid team enter whf 2 hours after daylight.

[nugnug]

the raid team allegedly decided to wait till daylight to enter whf.

the trouble explanation is by the time they entered it had allready been light for 2 hours.

so what was the real reason they waited.

[grahameb]

the raid team allegedly decided to wait till daylight to enter whf.

the trouble explanation is by the time they entered it had allready been light for 2 hours.

so what was the real reason they waited.

Perhaps to see if anyone came out the back door? It might sound foolish, but you never know, they might have been deep sleepers?

[nugnug]

could be but why would they need to lie about that.

[scipio_usmc]

the raid team allegedly decided to wait till daylight to enter whf.

the trouble explanation is by the time they entered it had allready been light for 2 hours.

so what was the real reason they waited.

This claim has been raised 5 times the past 2 weeks in this threads.

The raid team waited until they had enough personnel to raid the building and STILL cover the outside so that a gunman could not rush out a different door and shoot those outside and fle the scene or simply flee the scene.

You set up a perimeter to guard against excape.  7AM a second batch of armed officers arrived and then after their arrival some were staitioned to guard the perimeter while others were to raid the house and they forumated and executed their plan.

[nugnug]

but they cliamed not to have seen or heard any gunman so why would they.

to do that they would of had to of thought there was a gunman in there.

pluss they allready had enough men to do that anyway by daylight.

[Adam]

the raid team allegedly decided to wait till daylight to enter whf.

the trouble explanation is by the time they entered it had allready been light for 2 hours.

so what was the real reason they waited.

What is you're point ?

Are you saying they were against Jeremy from the beginning and a delay in entering would harm Jeremy ? So the raid team deliberately delayed ?

Or are you saying an earlier entry would have benefited Jeremy in some way ?

If you are saying neither, then the raid team entered WHF when they were ready. When that was is not an issue.

[nugnug]

i am saying what they claimed later wasn't true there were not waiting till daylight.

[Adam]

It is documented what time the raid team entered
 
If that was not the minute it got light, so what ? They were going in when they were ready.

[nugnug]

it was over 2 hour after it got light.

not a minute.

[scipio_usmc]

but they cliamed not to have seen or heard any gunman so why would they.

to do that they would of had to of thought there was a gunman in there.

pluss they allready had enough men to do that anyway by daylight.

Jeremy's account was that there was a gunman in there so they had to operate from that assumption.  Particualry since the phone was off the hook so they could not call those inside and their only means of communication- megaphone was met with no response.

That means:

1) they were all dead

or

2) any who were living were being kept from answering and the person holding them hostage chose not to answer either

SInce they had no way to know which was the case they had to assume the gunman was alive and could try to escape from a different door if they broke in.  They thus set up a perimeter in case the gunman tried to escape and a raid team to clear the house.

[nugnug]

if they had really seen and heard nothing surely they would no that assumption was wrong.

[lookout]

It is documented what time the raid team entered
 
If that was not the minute it got light, so what ? They were going in when they were ready.

There were two children inside that farmhouse.Time was of the essence,,though by the sound of things,they were as flippant as you sound with your post ! " They were going in when they were ready " !

[nugnug]

absluty right there wasnt a minute to waste but for some reason even when it got light they still buggered around for 2 hours.

[scipio_usmc]

if they had really seen and heard nothing surely they would no that assumption was wrong.

Some refuse to answer.  Even more likely if someone is in a crazy rage to just ignore the police and not answer. 

[Adam]

I don't see how what time they went in helps show guilt or innocence.