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Re: Menstrual Blood
« Reply #15 on: July 26, 2014, 12:06:PM »
Is there verification, other than Ann's, of the items in the buckets? I just find it HUGELY strange that, in 1985, ANY soiled items were soaked in buckets, especially when there were sinks available, although I recognize it was a method favoured by mothers to soak toweling nappies.

why did she bother soaking them at all. why dident she just throw them away i mean its not like anyone was going to wear those clothes agian.

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Re: Menstrual Blood
« Reply #16 on: July 26, 2014, 12:06:PM »
How could Ann say with confidence she knew the difference between normal blood and menstruating blood?

Because she said it smelled different. However, having soaked for several days, I very much doubt that there would be any smell.
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Re: Menstrual Blood
« Reply #17 on: July 26, 2014, 12:09:PM »
Hello jansus

it is said on the forum that AE said the smell was different between the two ??? Sorry Caroline had not got to your post :'(
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Re: Menstrual Blood
« Reply #18 on: July 26, 2014, 12:11:PM »
Blood is blood and the smell would be of a metallic nature because of the iron.

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Re: Menstrual Blood
« Reply #19 on: July 26, 2014, 12:23:PM »


Thanks for that, Harters. Please understand that this isn't directed at you -how could you know- but it's this kind of laissez faire attitude, from those who were supposed to be in control, which makes me SO angry. It seems that Ann may have been given carte blanche to take away, without restriction or even check, whatever she wanted, and her word for it was accepted. What, IMO, makes her explanation worse, is that it was virtually unchallengeable in that who would be likely to challenge a menstrual accident OR ask for proof of it? OK, so Sheila WAS menstruating but if she hadn't been it could simply have been said that she'd finished and the items had been in soak from the previous day. There was no one who could challenge it other than Jeremy and why would he even notice a bucket amid the general untidiness of the general kitchen area?

I think because the house had been handed over and was no longer a crime scene, they were simply clearing up, it's not that the relatives were allowed or not allowed to take things away, they were just doing what was expected and asked of them.

I think the buckets were in the utility area. Going on from my theory regarding order of shots if you have read it (which I am now absolutely convinced about, more than anything else), I think the sound moderator was returned to the gun cupboard, the back door key left in the lock, the office door at the top of the stairs locked and chairs put against the kitchen door, all gave the impression that nothing in that area of the house was associated with the murders, so the police didn't give much more than a cursory observation in that area.

Whilst I obviously don't know (I wasn't there), I suspect it is all as described by Ann and is of little or no evidential value as far as the murders are concerned.

I'm not sure I can relate to your anger, but that probably just makes me a psychopath.  :-\

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Re: Menstrual Blood
« Reply #20 on: July 26, 2014, 12:34:PM »
I think because the house had been handed over and was no longer a crime scene, they were simply clearing up, it's not that the relatives were allowed or not allowed to take things away, they were just doing what was expected and asked of them.

I think the buckets were in the utility area. Going on from my theory regarding order of shots if you have read it (which I am now absolutely convinced about, more than anything else), I think the sound moderator was returned to the gun cupboard, the back door key left in the lock, the office door at the top of the stairs locked and chairs put against the kitchen door, all gave the impression that nothing in that area of the house was associated with the murders, so the police didn't give much more than a cursory observation in that area.

Whilst I obviously don't know (I wasn't there), I suspect it is all as described by Ann and is of little or no evidential value as far as the murders are concerned.

I'm not sure I can relate to your anger, but that probably just makes me a psychopath:-\

I'd say there was a strong possibility  ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Menstrual Blood
« Reply #21 on: July 26, 2014, 01:56:PM »
Hello jansus

it is said on the forum that AE said the smell was different between the two ??? Sorry Caroline had not got to your post :'(


1) I don't think it would smell if had been soaking
2) if it was just in the obvious place there would be no need to smell it so that sounds like a very odd comment to me.

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Re: Menstrual Blood
« Reply #22 on: July 26, 2014, 04:36:PM »
This issue is on of those which demonstrates the desperation and absurdity of Jeremy supporters.

1) Water sitting in a buck for days stinks let alone contmainated water

2) Stained clothes are soaked in a bucket before washing to try to keep the stain from setting

3) How many soak clothes in a sink and thus prevent the sink from being used for any other purpose as opposed to selecting a bucket?

4) What other explanation is there for sizable blood stains in the crotch area of female panties and leggings than menstraul blood where no women were wounded in any manner that could result in stuck stains int he crotch areas of their clothing?  Particularly when 1 was menstruating and found with a tampon in her?

To anyone who is reasonably intelligent and objective the clothing is menstrual stained and of no relevance to the murders.

But some desperate, unreasonable Jeremy supporters insist this is proof that Sheila changed and washed her clothes after committing the murders.

They assert she did the ASS backwards thing of preserving tampons by not using one and wearing 2 pairs of panties and leggings to bed instead of a nightdress. She menstruated in them, killed everyone then washed, changed, soaked the stained clothing in buckets, inserted a tampon and put on a nightdress to kill herself.   

So to go to sleep with the intention of waking up in the morning and carrying on her life as normal she wears regular clothes with no tampon knowing they will get bloodstained.  But after deciding to kill herself she washes, inserts a tampon, soaks her stained clothes knowing she won't need them, and puts on a nightdress. 

Aside from being so obvious that this fairytale is not being driven by evidence but rather being crafted to try to get around the evidence and the sheer stupidiy of these claims it still fails to achieve the intended objective.  The key clothing of the killer would be the clothing covering the top half.  That would have GSR and the most blood spatter fromt he victims.  No such clothing was found nor any gloves though the killer clearly used gloves.

This mestrual stained clothing BS is a red herring to try to get peopel to forget about the nonexistent GSR/ blood spatter stained clothing and for some a fable of why she would get up.  In fact one of my favorate fables from a Jeremy Supporter was one claiming his proves she w oke up, saw the blood in her pants and this made her go crazy and decide to kill everyone.

When someone dares to point out how much of a leap all these claims are then some of Jeremy's women come rushing in claiming a man can't address this and women know better and even spouting bogus religious claims of how Sheila would need to hide that she was on her period from June.

All this nonsense does is make clear how far Jeremy supporters will stretch things to try to find a way to pretend there is evidence to support his innocence. 
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Re: Menstrual Blood
« Reply #23 on: July 26, 2014, 04:39:PM »
it has great relavence to the murders there was no reason for ann Eaton to wash those clothes in the first place.

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Re: Menstrual Blood
« Reply #24 on: July 26, 2014, 05:03:PM »
Negative words about other members in ONE of scipio´s posts:

desperation
absurdity
reasonably intelligent (implying JB "supporters" are NOT)
desperate
unreasonable
stupidiy
spouting bogus religious claims
nonsense

Such a nice person..... NOT! Can´t you just say what you want to say without being such a potty mouth? It is quite an unpleasant read, and one can´t help feeling disgusted by you.  >:(

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Re: Menstrual Blood
« Reply #25 on: July 26, 2014, 05:09:PM »
it has great relavence to the murders there was no reason for ann Eaton to wash those clothes in the first place.

Explain the relevance.  Not one intelligent perosn has managed to come up with any tie to the murders only people with absurd ideas trying to pretend there was a tie.
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Re: Menstrual Blood
« Reply #26 on: July 26, 2014, 05:11:PM »
Negative words about other members in ONE of scipio´s posts:

desperation
absurdity
reasonably intelligent (implying JB "supporters" are NOT)
desperate
unreasonable
stupidiy
spouting bogus religious claims
nonsense

Such a nice person..... NOT! Can´t you just say what you want to say without being such a potty mouth? It is quite an unpleasant read, and one can´t help feeling disgusted by you.  >:(

sighn of despration.

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Re: Menstrual Blood
« Reply #27 on: July 26, 2014, 05:12:PM »
Explain the relevance.  Not one intelligent perosn has managed to come up with any tie to the murders only people with absurd ideas trying to pretend there was a tie.

well don't you think its a bit weird to wash a dead persons clothes.

what possble reason would there be to do somthing like that.

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Re: Menstrual Blood
« Reply #28 on: July 26, 2014, 05:21:PM »
More of a sign of pig ignorance !

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Re: Menstrual Blood
« Reply #29 on: July 26, 2014, 05:22:PM »
well don't you think its a bit weird to wash a dead persons clothes.

what possble reason would there be to do somthing like that.

Her job was to help clean out the place.  No one else wanted to take care of the bloody panties so even though she said no way at first she was forced to do so. 

All she did was rinse them out to empty the water from the buckets and then threw them in the garbage bin.  The bin by the dishwaster was a garbage bin.  She didn't put them in the washing machine and wash them she simply rinsed them out because they were wet, dumped out the water and threw them away.

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