Why would he?

[Roch]

One thing which may not have crossed peoples minds is that the CCRC are not bound by the PII rules, they have access to everything.

(Cheers Pete  )  Yes, Hartley that is what I have read on here a few times.  I wonder if they have access to the alleged (now infamous!) Sheila found on the bed photo?

But hartley, what do you make of the docs posted on this link?
http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,476.0.html

[chochokeira]

Well it would hardly be a disaster if he failed the test as it would simply not be publicised. The defence arranged the test, if he failed it, we would never have heard about him taking it.

And you think a test that went wrong for him, in a controlled environment, inside a maximum securitiy prison wouldn't be leaked out?

I agree, Dolly, I don't how it could be kept quiet.

[simong]

Keira, what headline would it be. Murderer already found guilty fails lie detector test.  How could the newspapers/press substaniate it? The press only seem interested in scandal not in something that would prove something that has already been proven.

I live 12 miles from Tolleshunt Darcy and i have run a football club for over 100 adult members based from Danbury about 6 miles from there. Only the older players 30+ (20% of members) know of him. Unfortunately he just isn't front page news, Cheryl Cole, Posh spice and Simon Cowell are.

As a story/ headline, It would only interest people with knowledge of the case and i doubt any newspaper is going to run a story on page 26 let alone, front page on some prisoners hearsay.

[Roch]

Keira, what headline would it be. Murderer already found guilty fails lie detector test.  How could the newspapers/press substaniate it? The press only seem interested in scandal not in something that would prove something that has already been proven.

I live 12 miles from Tolleshunt Darcy and i have run a football club for over 100 adult members based from Danbury about 6 miles from there. Only the older players 30+ (20% of members) know of him. Unfortunately he just isn't front page news, Cheryl Cole, Posh spice and Simon Cowell are.

As a story/ headline, It would only interest people with knowledge of the case and i doubt any newspaper is going to run a story on page 26 let alone, front page on some prisoners hearsay.

You think interest in the case is confined to a 12 mile radius of Tollesnhunt Darcey... and involving football players over 30?

[simong]

Brilliant point i must be wrong then sorry

[Roch]

Brilliant point i must be wrong then sorry

Proven with what evidence? The evidence is so solid that it is still being battered from all sides in 26 years?  Yes, of course, many members of the general public naturally rally to a man who pumps bullets in to children's faces and heads.  tell me the solid evidence please.

[bob]

Very good post!

No Jackie. It's a bad post.

Lie detector tests are notoriously unreliable, and therefore, quite rightly, not admissible in UK courts. So any reasoning based on whether someone is/isn't willing to take a lie detector test is pointless.

[Jackiepreece]

Jeremy is supported by numerous people in high profile positions who believe this is a miscarriage of justice and hopefully EVERYONE on this forum would like to see actual evidence that everything that night was a tragic accident because of sheilas illness and not a murder.

I hope everyone here would rather this turned out to be an accident.

[simong]

Brilliant point i must be wrong then sorry

Proven with what evidence? The evidence is so solid that it is still being battered from all sides in 26 years?  Yes, of course, many members of the general public naturally rally to a man who pumps bullets in to children's faces and heads.  tell me the solid evidence please.

Erm, i agreed with you. Have you thought about yoga?

[Roch]

Very good post!

No Jackie. It's a bad post.

Lie detector tests are notoriously unreliable, and therefore, quite rightly, not admissbible in UK courts. So any reasoning based on whether someone is/isn't willing to take a lie detector test is pointless.

So you are saying that lie detector tests ure unreliable in the sense that they are unpredictable or easily rigged? Think carefully about your answer

[Roch]

Brilliant point i must be wrong then sorry

Proven with what evidence? The evidence is so solid that it is still being battered from all sides in 26 years?  Yes, of course, many members of the general public naturally rally to a man who pumps bullets in to children's faces and heads.  tell me the solid evidence please.

Erm, i agreed with you. Have you thought about yoga?

I can only do a few variations of warrior position. That's not an ironic joke 

[bob]

Very good post!

No Jackie. It's a bad post.

Lie detector tests are notoriously unreliable, and therefore, quite rightly, not admissbible in UK courts. So any reasoning based on whether someone is/isn't willing to take a lie detector test is pointless.

So you are saying that lie detector tests ure unreliable in the sense that they are unpredictable or easily rigged? Think carefully about your answer

"Think carefully about your answer"

Sorry, but that's pretty bloody patronising 

Lie detector tests are unreliable full-stop, simply because there is no scientific concensus that they work at all. Neither "unpredictable" or "easily rigged" come into it.

As soon as you resort to using lie detector evidence as an argument for someone's innocence you may as well admit defeat.

[simong]

Brilliant point i must be wrong then sorry

Proven with what evidence? The evidence is so solid that it is still being battered from all sides in 26 years?  Yes, of course, many members of the general public naturally rally to a man who pumps bullets in to children's faces and heads.  tell me the solid evidence please.

Erm, i agreed with you. Have you thought about yoga?

I can only do a few variations of warrior position. That's not an ironic joke 

You do seem to have the bit between your teeth tonight. 

Just for the record as it seems people are trying to separate members into different camps at the moment on here. I think Jeremy should be given a retrial and i would like all the evidence to be made available. I would like Essex police made accountable for an appalling investigation and for destroying evidence. I also cannot see Sheila as the killer. It's all opinions and no-one on here even Mike 'conspiracy' Tesko knows what happened for sure.

[chochokeira]

Keira, what headline would it be. Murderer already found guilty fails lie detector test.  How could the newspapers/press substaniate it? The press only seem interested in scandal not in something that would prove something that has already been proven.

I live 12 miles from Tolleshunt Darcy and i have run a football club for over 100 adult members based from Danbury about 6 miles from there. Only the older players 30+ (20% of members) know of him. Unfortunately he just isn't front page news, Cheryl Cole, Posh spice and Simon Cowell are.

As a story/ headline, It would only interest people with knowledge of the case and i doubt any newspaper is going to run a story on page 26 let alone, front page on some prisoners hearsay.

A lot of newspapers have run articles on Jeremy Bamber and his bid for an Appeal. So, I think a number of them would print an article about him doing a lie detector test. You're probably right in saying that many younger people aren't that interested, however, that may be because many people of that age have so much going on their lives that they tend to be very focussed on their own personal issues.

[chochokeira]

Brilliant point i must be wrong then sorry

Proven with what evidence? The evidence is so solid that it is still being battered from all sides in 26 years?  Yes, of course, many members of the general public naturally rally to a man who pumps bullets in to children's faces and heads.  tell me the solid evidence please.

Erm, i agreed with you. Have you thought about yoga?

I can only do a few variations of warrior position. That's not an ironic joke 

You do seem to have the bit between your teeth tonight. 

Just for the record as it seems people are trying to separate members into different camps at the moment on here. I think Jeremy should be given a retrial and i would like all the evidence to be made available. I would like Essex police made accountable for an appalling investigation and for destroying evidence. I also cannot see Sheila as the killer. It's all opinions and no-one on here even Mike 'conspiracy' Tesko knows what happened for sure.

Well said, Simon on giving Jeremy a retrial and making all the evidence available. +1