The caravan break in. A taste for money, a taste to massacre ?

[Jane]

Sheila too was comparatively well off and she had a husband as well,but was still provided for by her parents.

She had an ex husband who wasn't in permanent work.

[Alias]

It was quite possible that Sheila was addicted to cocaine Steve, she had massive problems but cocaine does not make you passive, it makes you unpredictable and a very angry loose canon.  There was far more to Sheila than she's often given credit for, she was a mass of contradictions and between her paranoid schizophrenia, her drug taking etc. she was capable of having a severe psychotic episode  imo.

Well said, Maggie!

[Steve_uk]

It was quite possible that Sheila was addicted to cocaine Steve, she had massive problems but cocaine does not make you passive, it makes you unpredictable and a very angry loose canon.  There was far more to Sheila than she's often given credit for, she was a mass of contradictions and between her paranoid schizophrenia, her drug taking etc. she was capable of having a severe psychotic episode  imo.

It would explain her poor timekeeping and inability to hold down a job. I have often wondered why such a philosophical person ended up such a wreck..

[Alias]

It would explain her poor timekeeping and inability to hold down a job. I have often wondered why such a philosophical person ended up such a wreck..

If you´d ask Colin, he would say it had to do with the toxic relationship with June.

[Jane]

..and it's as if he's now mimicking Sheila's passivity in jail now and seemingly accepting everything which is thrown at him. Whether he has any faith left in his lawyers is anyone's guess..

That's maybe not as strange as it might seem. He'd watched Sheila getting her needs met by doing comparatively nothing -in his eyes- so perhaps it feels good, to him, to turn responsibility over to others.

[lookout]

Jeremy will be feeling the guilt at not having known nor understood just how ill his sister was. As he states in his video,neither his mum nor dad realised the extent of her illness.
Well none of them could have ever blamed themselves if nothing was ever explained to them,Lord knows Neville was paying enough in medical bills,so should have demanded to have known.

[Steve_uk]

Jeremy will be feeling the guilt at not having known nor understood just how ill his sister was. As he states in his video,neither his mum nor dad realised the extent of her illness.
Well none of them could have ever blamed themselves if nothing was ever explained to them,Lord knows Neville was paying enough in medical bills,so should have demanded to have known.

Didn't Nevill make some remark to farm secretary Barbara Wilson about children today not knowing the value of money? Of course he had every right to bewail how his children turned out and contrast this with his own family,whose contemporaries by that time sadly had all predeceased him.

[Alias]

Didn't Nevill make some remark to farm secretary Barbara Wilson about children today not knowing the value of money? Of course he had every right to bewail how his children turned out and contrast this with his own family,whose contemporaries by that time sadly had all predeceased him.

In my opinion it is the parents´ fault mostly how their children turn out.

[Steve_uk]

In my opinion it is the parents´ fault mostly how their children turn out.

Nevill and June hadn't invested any emotional capital in their children in stark contrast to the family business,the couple's initials N@J intertwined depicting their propinquity,a bond which neither Sheila nor Jeremy fully understood and could never break. It was Pamela strangely enough who expressed the astonishment at the tragic turn of events by saying out loud that the children had every material benefit and subliminally suggesting that they were ingrates,though ironically Nevill and June never cast this aspersion at their children but turned the blame internally,which Robert Boutflour jumped upon as the source of their illness.

[Adam]

If JB was allegedly planning to kill his family for many month to inherit the cavern park why would he break into it a month beforehand if in his mind it will soon be his anyway?

The caravan break in was in March. The massacre in August.

[Jane]

Nevill and June hadn't invested any emotional capital in their children in stark contrast to the family business,the couple's initials N@J intertwined depicting their propinquity,a bond which neither Sheila nor Jeremy fully understood and could never break. It was Pamela strangely enough who expressed the astonishment at the tragic turn of events by saying out loud that the children had every material benefit and subliminally suggesting that they were ingrates,though ironically Nevill and June never cast this aspersion at their children but turned the blame internally,which Robert Boutflour jumped upon as the source of their illness.

Steve, do you REALLY credit RWB with the ability to RECOGNIZE internalized blame, let alone the sensitivity to link it to illness?!!!!!!! I imagine he'd have viewed anything to do with mental illness as "claptrap" or weakness on the part of the sufferer and psychiatry as a form of promoting devil worship......................however, had he known of Sheila's problems I feel he'd possibly have viewed them with self satisfaction and smugness.

[susan]

David Jeremy already had shares in the caravan park and on the death of his family he would only inherit a further share not the whole.

[Jan]

If JB was allegedly planning to kill his family for many month to inherit the cavern park why would he break into it a month beforehand if in his mind it will soon be his anyway?

Julie was involved as well >Jb said he had repeatedly told them security was lax and they needed to upgrade it . So he broke in and yes kept the money . Apparently his father did find out - allegedly but did not take it any further.

[lookout]

In my opinion it is the parents´ fault mostly how their children turn out.

I would agree with that Alias.

[maggie]

Didn't Nevill make some remark to farm secretary Barbara Wilson about children today not knowing the value of money? Of course he had every right to bewail how his children turned out and contrast this with his own family,whose contemporaries by that time sadly had all predeceased him.

Think every generation bewails the way the younger generation behave at some time, it's the order of life, I believe?