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Offline grahameb

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« Reply #255 on: July 07, 2014, 08:45:AM »
Even Jeremy's defence lawyers found her WS believable. Which is why they focused on the bank fraud.

She approached the police.
Up until now Adam I have accepted your word for this as I haven't been able to find it anywhere? But for want of a better expression could you please provide a "source"?
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« Reply #256 on: July 07, 2014, 08:49:AM »
Morning Adam

I have read this statement but cannot find a source could you provide one please. Thank you.

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« Reply #257 on: July 07, 2014, 09:36:AM »
Adam where's the source ;D ;D ;D ;D bet you don't have one ;D

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« Reply #258 on: July 07, 2014, 12:26:PM »
Adam

if it was such a minor crime in your eyes and you believe they told the police - why would they do that only because of this crime? There would be no reason would there? they would not have been on trial - so why confess at this particular time?

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« Reply #259 on: July 07, 2014, 07:40:PM »
Adam where's the source ;D ;D ;D ;D bet you don't have one ;D

You know I always provide a source.

Page 167 - Blood Relations, Roger Wilkes.

A critically acclaimed unbiased book.
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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« Reply #260 on: July 07, 2014, 07:44:PM »
'The lawyers went over her statement, line by line. Geoffrey Rivlin repeated the process personally'.

'Looking for the smallest loose brick that might be dislodged to bring the whole story crashing down'.

'But all her statements meshed convincingly, and her story undeniably resounded with a 'ring of truth'.
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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« Reply #261 on: July 07, 2014, 07:47:PM »
Adam thank you I agree you do always provide a source  ;D

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« Reply #262 on: July 07, 2014, 07:52:PM »
I also believe her WS seems perfectly believable.

Several other people also testified how Jeremy did not like his immediate family.

What Julie & Jeremy did before and after the massacre must be true. They were often with other people or went to public places. So it can easily be checked.
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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« Reply #263 on: July 07, 2014, 09:16:PM »
'The lawyers went over her statement, line by line. Geoffrey Rivlin repeated the process personally'.

'Looking for the smallest loose brick that might be dislodged to bring the whole story crashing down'.

'But all her statements meshed convincingly, and her story undeniably resounded with a 'ring of truth'.
Thank you Adam. I would like to know where he got this information though? Is he telling the story from his perspective, or from the defence's actual words? It just doesn't sound like something the defence lawyers would say? If they did say it, then it means that they were half convinced already that he was guilty? With defence lawyers like that who need a bill?

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« Reply #264 on: July 07, 2014, 09:22:PM »
I also believe her WS seems perfectly believable.

Several other people also testified how Jeremy did not like his immediate family.

What Julie & Jeremy did before and after the massacre must be true. They were often with other people or went to public places. So it can easily be checked.

who were those witnesses?

There were others who said he had a normal family relationship.  Even Barbara said he was like a son to her.





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« Reply #265 on: July 07, 2014, 09:27:PM »
who were those witnesses?

There were others who said he had a normal family relationship.  Even Barbara said he was like a son to her.

Mary Mugford.

Ann Eaton.

James Richards.

Dorothy Folkes.

Robert Boutflour.

Barbara Wilson.
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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« Reply #266 on: July 07, 2014, 09:36:PM »
Thank you Adam. I would like to know where he got this information though? Is he telling the story from his perspective, or from the defence's actual words? It just doesn't sound like something the defence lawyers would say? If they did say it, then it means that they were half convinced already that he was guilty? With defence lawyers like that who need a bill?

The introduction to the book, Wilkes says he interviewed everyone connected to the case. Including Jeremy, but not including Julie.
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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« Reply #267 on: July 07, 2014, 09:43:PM »
So did Scott Lomax,who also campaigned for Barry George and others of high-profile.
As did Claire Powell.

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« Reply #268 on: July 07, 2014, 09:48:PM »
Lomax's book is very biased.

After reading about the case online, I looked for the least biased and best reviewed book. Then bought 'Blood Relations'.
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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« Reply #269 on: July 07, 2014, 09:53:PM »
Claire Powells' book is very biased towards Jeremys' guilt,,but at the same time,she doesn't wrap anything up about Sheilas' life-style.