The caravan break in. A taste for money, a taste to massacre ?

[Jan]

I must have missed you're list.

Jeremy's crime was against his family. Julie told the police about it.

Susan Battersby's minor cheque book fraud in 1984 was immature teenagers. So I do not see why see should lead to committing such serious perjury.

Adam that statement is not true .You did not miss the list it was a reply to your post on the thread "time to agree with Jeremyabout the silencer"  your post 16 my post 17. So I am not falling for your silly tactics any more.

[Adam]

 

is it not strange that Adam keeps repeating the same untruths over and over again. He knows the facts about who's idea the cheque book fraud was and yet cannot even admit it to himself.

[Adam]

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=289.0

Julie's WS on the bank fraud to me suggests it was a joint decision. Using Susan Battersby's cheque book.

Susan called the bank to report her cheque book stolen.

[Caroline]

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=289.0

Julie's WS on the bank fraud to me suggests it was a joint decision. Using Susan Battersby's cheque book.

Susan called the bank to report her cheque book stolen.

It doesn't matter what it suggests to you, Julie admitted that it was her idea! 

[Jan]

It doesn't matter what it suggests to you, Julie admitted that it was her idea! 

he knows that.but watch out he might ask you for the source. It is his deflection tactic

[Adam]

It does not say it was Julie's idea in her WS.

Source please.

[Jan]

It does not say it was Julie's idea in her WS.

Source please.

so predicable

[Jane]

It does not say it was Julie's idea in her WS.

Source please.

I don't recall that it was Susan who wanted to buy something for Jeremy, so who did Julie blame?

[Adam]

I will check what she testified.

[Adam]

It seems pretty certain it was a joint idea. Two teenagers daring each other.

Whose idea it was is neither here or there. It is a big jump from a £634.00 fraud to murder perjury in two years. The jury were aware of the fraud.

[grahameb]

The law as it stands on fraud. Scroll to the bottom to see the penalties. You will observe that fraud is not taken lightly by the police or the law courts. Mugford/Battersby cheque book fraud was anything but "minor"
http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/d_to_g/fraud_act/#introduction

[Adam]

When testifying Julie does not say Susan Battersby's 1984 minor cheque book fraud was her idea.

[Jane]

It seems pretty certain it was a joint idea. Two teenagers daring each other.

Whose idea it was is neither here or there. It is a big jump from a £634.00 fraud to murder perjury in two years. The jury were aware of the fraud.

Well done you for trying so hard to exonerate her. I wonder how proud you'd be if it was your daughter who'd shared a bed for nearly two years with a man she claimed to KNOW was going to murder his family, helped him to rob his family business, sold drugs at her college on his behalf, and defrauded a bank after forging someone else's name on a cheque book. A daughter to be proud of? I think not.

[Jan]

When testifying Julie does not say Susan Battersby's 1984 minor cheque book fraud was her idea.

it's on her 2002 statement she was " the stronger influence"  her own words. And the whole statement about how they got off is laughable. Especially when you read the bank managers version. It beggars belief.

[Adam]

Well done you for trying so hard to exonerate her. I wonder how proud you'd be if it was your daughter who'd shared a bed for nearly two years with a man she claimed to KNOW was going to murder his family, helped him to rob his family business, sold drugs at her college on his behalf, and defrauded a bank after forging someone else's name on a cheque book. A daughter to be proud of? I think not.

She did not know. She did not believe him. How often are families massacred by their own son/brother/nephew ?

She knew nothing of Jeremy's idea to rob his own family until Jeremy arrived there. Then told her to wait outside.

Susan Battersby's 1984 minor cheque book fraud was brought up in court by the defence. Jeremy would have told them about it.