The caravan break in. A taste for money, a taste to massacre ?

[Jane]

Think Lomax states that Jeremy did fund most of his trips himself, April on his return trip from Australia he stayed for a short time in Bali and Hong Kong, June insisted on paying for his ticket back from Australia and on the second trip Nevill did  pay for his final flight home after his second trip when he spent time in New Zealand, Australia and the Middle East.

Aha!!! So THAT'S where those Cartier's came from. Even the fella's are fakes in those places

[Adam]

How could he afford these long and winding trips to various countries ?

[Jane]

How could he afford these long and winding trips to various countries ?

Awwww Wouldn't the bank of Mum and Dad fund you?

[maggie]

Jeremy argued his corner successfully that he should gain parity with Sheila,whose photograph portfolio had been paid for by June along with her modelling course. When Sheila turned into a Lucie Clayton failure this took some of the pressure off Jeremy and he enjoyed a trouble-free few months lounging on the Auckland beaches,where he caught the eye of homosexual Brett Collins,who was running a sandwich bar there. The two became petty criminals and pilfered two Cartier watches from a jewellery store,one of which Jeremy gave to Suzette Ford upon his return to England. The precise reason for their departure from New Zealand is unknown,except that it was hasty and was rumoured to be in connection with a death at a city nightclub. They moved on to Sydney and became beach bums until the money ran out and June sent her son a one way ticket home,where the storm clouds were gathering as Jeremy realized he was shackled to a lifestyle he could never effectuate and ambitions planned for him he would never fulfil.

Where did you read all that Steve?  I have read something very different however, we can never know for sure which if either is closest to the truth as it is all hearsay, certainly not proven fact.

[susan]

Adam I have told you once he sold wacky backy good money in that thinking of trying it myself as a little side line.  He grew the stuff and Julie brought some in from other Countries naughty Julie.

[Adam]

The parents funding these long trips abroad was a mistake.

Jeremy became resentful when the money stopped. Trying to go it alone away from WHF, before reluctantly returning.

But the money didn't stop for Sheila.

[Steve_uk]

I'm sure you know about the stop-overs en route to the Antipodes where one can get fake ANYTHINGS. That includes Cartier watches. As you say, the precise reason for Jeremy's return is unknown.

Once again Jeremy's trip was to be ill-fated as he failed his scuba-diving course,realizing finally the import of June's clumsiness when she had dropped him on the head as a baby. How many twists and turns are there in a story which could very well have ended differently,yet another opportunity for Jeremy to pursue his dreams without the confines of White House Farm had been dashed. Had Jeremy let slip to Nevill's New Zealand cousin Chris his real sentiments towards his parents when he dismissed them both as lily-livered and inconsistent in disciplinary matters,as June once again fell ill in the Autumn of 1983 and had to be hospitalized as her religion turned into a mania in an attempt to protect herself from her ever-disrespectful children? Nevill himself turned tearfully to neighbour John Seward and would confide occasionally in farm secretary Barbara Wilson on the subject,but both Sheila and Jeremy were spiralling out of control and it was Jeremy who exploited the vacuum left by June's absence to gain ever more status on the Farm when in reality he had done very little to earn it.

[susan]

Hello steve uk source please on the watches.

[maggie]

Was he working while at school ? That would explain his poor qualifications. Of he was just lazy. Or not academic. Or both ?

Again he would not have saved up much.

You haven't got a clue how much money he may have had and where he may have got it from. You are spreading your own assumptions again.

[maggie]

How could he afford these long and winding trips to various countries ?

He saved up I suppose, he worked when he was over there, you must have missed out Adam, loads of kids do this kind of thing.

[Adam]

You haven't got a clue how much money he may have had and where he may have got it from. You are spreading your own assumptions again.

So what ? I am giving my opinion.

Which is his parents funded his long, winding and expensive trips  abroad. Straight after he left education.

[scipio_usmc]

Some emotional problems!!!!!  You have to be a total psychopathic, narcissistic monster to do what you claim he did.  Trouble is he has never shown any signs of these disorders in any other situation.

1) people are good at hiding things though we know he was narcissistic enough to steal from his family.

2) the exact level of deparvity necessary is hard to calculate since it varies so much case to case/ is hard to quatify.

we don't know what other things he might have done that we are unaware of. Maybe he did have a personality he wasn't popular in school and didn't seem to have many friends.   

Julie said he was constantly moaning about his hard work on the far and jealous anytime the fmaily spent money on others including his own sister who he was jealous of because she got a free ride while he had to work.  He was jealous that his sister with mental problems who could not even be taught how to drive got a free place to live without having to work.  He should have been thanking his lucky stars he was not like her.  I don't get jealous if my parents help a sibling or even nieces and nephews out when they need it. He clearly had issues and some might have stemmed from being adopted, some from being dumped in a boarding school but there was more to it than that to be jealous of them supporting a sister with problems that prevented her from leading a normal life. That kind of jealousy is not normal at all.  In fact it reminds me of the same kind of jealousy killer Ronald DeFeo Jr had where he felt his father should have given him the same amount of money to use for partying that he had spend on younger brother Marc's medical treatment (he had a broken leg from playing football). 

[Adam]

Adam I have told you once he sold wacky backy good money in that thinking of trying it myself as a little side line.  He grew the stuff and Julie brought some in from other Countries naughty Julie.

So Jeremy was the Scarface of Sloppy Joe's. Or was it Little Chef ?

[susan]

Adam don't tell me you did not have a paper round before and after school

[maggie]

So what ? I am giving my opinion.

Which is his parents funded his long, winding and expensive trips  abroad. Straight after he left education.

Your opinion proves nothing.  It is said that he funded most of the trips but even if June and Nevill did fund the trip, so what?  I presume they funded them because they were happy to or are you trying to infer he MADE them pay for his trips?  They could certainly afford to give him money and I am a little confused  ......  a moment ago you were arguing that Jeremy was angry and bitter and full of hatred becausse Sheila was getting all the freebies, now you are telling us that Jeremy got free 'jaunts' abroad.  Make your mind up.