The caravan break in. A taste for money, a taste to massacre ?

[susan]

Adam you are nothing but a two timing monkey thought I was the only one in your sleeping bag now Maggie

[Jane]

Nice to see Mod April back.....and nice of her to bring the strange comments to all of Adams post back with her.

Nice to BE back, Mat. Can't WAIT to see what you're going to accuse me of next.

[susan]

Ha Ha lookout little does Adam know plenty of good tunes played on an older fiddle notice I did not say old as I know you are not old Adam thinks anyone over 40 is old

[susan]

Adam I have to agree Jeremy and Julie robbed the caravan park purely for money as they liked lots of it I guess. Enough to murder for the jury is still out on that one.

[lookout]

Every one of those people were greedy-------------------the only exception was Pam.

[Alias]

The fact there is no history of violence by JB at all is interesting to me.  Surely a person capable of such violence in a cold blooded and calculating way would have shown signs of violence to partners etc before?  There is usually a history of escalating violence rather than crime in general.

I know he had never been violent, but he still crossed a line. I wonder why he did it, the loot wasn´t that great. Rehearsal to test his nerve?
I never liked this break-in, it is in the back of my mind and is one contributing factor to me being on the fence about the killings.
There is something else I read about that bothers me. I only remember it vaguely, and I don´t remember where I read it. It was about Jeremy spying on the house of a couple. He would sit in his car, as far as I recall. This is all I can remember. Can anyone help me?

[Steve_uk]

Whether Jeremy stole purely for greed or for kicks it does suggest that his source of money from his parents had dried up,which does seem to back up Julie's claim that he resented having to refurbish the cottage out of his own money. Jeremy was living beyond his means,though of course this does not prove that he is a mass murderer.

[Adam]

The fact there is no history of violence by JB at all is interesting to me.  Surely a person capable of such violence in a cold blooded and calculating way would have shown signs of violence to partners etc before?  There is usually a history of escalating violence rather than crime in general.

The massacre if it went to plan was cold and clinical. Not violent. A few silent shots fired in the dark. Everyone dying quickly and painlessly.

It escalated into violence when Neville got downstairs. When that happened there was no turning back. Jeremy had to be violent in the kitchen to finish the job he had started.

[maggie]

I know he had never been violent, but he still crossed a line. I wonder why he did it, the loot wasn´t that great. Rehearsal to test his nerve?
I never liked this break-in, it is in the back of my mind and is one contributing factor to me being on the fence about the killings.
There is something else I read about that bothers me. I only remember it vaguely, and I don´t remember where I read it. It was about Jeremy spying on the house of a couple. He would sit in his car, as far as I recall. This is all I can remember. Can anyone help me?

I have never heard that before Alias but sounds a bit creepy, if it's true.

[Steve_uk]

The massacre if it went to plan was cold and clinical. Not violent. A few silent shots fired in the dark. Everyone dying quickly and painlessly.

It escalated into violence when Neville got downstairs. When that happened there was no turning back. Jeremy had to be violent in the kitchen to finish the job he had started.

But there was overkill Adam.

[Adam]

Whether Jeremy stole purely for greed or for kicks it does suggest that his source of money from his parents had dried up,which does seem to back up Julie's claim that he resented having to refurbish the cottage out of his own money. Jeremy was living beyond his means,though of course this does not prove that he is a mass murderer.

His parents helped finance for a few jaunts abroad when Jeremy was younger.

But he now had to settle for a labourers wage working on the farm. Working long hours as well.

A million miles from the lifestyle he wanted.

[maggie]

The massacre if it went to plan was cold and clinical. Not violent. A few silent shots fired in the dark. Everyone dying quickly and painlessly.

It escalated into violence when Neville got downstairs. When that happened there was no turning back. Jeremy had to be violent in the kitchen to finish the job he had started.

There is no doubt in my mind that this was a violent crime, Adam.  Whoever carried it out and whatever manner it was conducted, it was definitely horrendously violent.

[Jane]

Whether Jeremy stole purely for greed or for kicks it does suggest that his source of money from his parents had dried up,which does seem to back up Julie's claim that he resented having to refurbish the cottage out of his own money. Jeremy was living beyond his means,though of course this does not prove that he is a mass murderer.

Steve, he was earning £200 a week, a phenomenal  sum in the 1980's. MUCH more, I imagine, than farm labourers. He had his own house, a car and probably numerous other perks. He also had £2000 in his account when he was arrested so how COULD he have been living beyond his means............though of course, this doesn't prove that he ISN'T a mass murderer.

[Adam]

But there was overkill Adam.

Jeremy underestimated the rifle power.

It took more than 11 bullets to kill five people. When he realised this, yes he did fire more than was needed. To make it look like a crazy Sheila was uncontrollable.

[Steve_uk]

Steve, he was earning £200 a week, a phenomenal  sum in the 1980's. MUCH more, I imagine, than farm labourers. He had his own house, a car and probably numerous other perks. He also had £2000 in his account when he was arrested so how COULD he have been living beyond his means............though of course, this doesn't prove that he ISN'T a mass murderer.

He was also making money from cannabis sales,but he had expensive tastes in gastronomy and would book smart London hotels for himself and Julie and shower her with gifts. Claire Powell touches upon this in her book.