Julie Rayner Mugford at 50: do old sins cast long shadows?

[Steve_uk]

It would also appear that it wasn't only he who " worshipped money ".
As for children,,I wouldn't be too sure if Jeremy was even capable of that,as for some unknown reason the woman he was living with had a couple of miscarriages,and it didn't seem to be anything to do with her as she already had children to her first marriage.

Could this man who bought Lego for Suzette's children and played with them as if they were his own be capable of such a monstrosity,or did he decide that if he couldn't have children of his own then Sheila herself did not deserve any? Was the ill-timed programme on miscarriages that Tuesday night the trigger as Jeremy unwound on his chintz upholstered chair at Bourtree Cottage,before ingesting a huge dose of cannabis and cocaine and finally making the decision to proceed..

[lookout]

Steve,,it wasn't Jeremy who thought on the lines of either having children or not having them.

[susan]

steve I agree my love is fading daily has been for years

[haughton]

  Should "life imprisonment" be classed as a form of torture ?

[lookout]

 I would imagine so,haughton. Without a doubt.

[Steve_uk]

I doubt the Prison Officers would like it much either,as there's no hope they can offer them and nothing they can do to counteract their recalcitrance.

[Alias]

I hope that Jeremy is guilty - otherwise that sentence is just too cruel.

[Steve_uk]

I hope that Jeremy is guilty - otherwise that sentence is just too cruel.

Nobody in either innocent or guilty camp would have foreseen this situation where Jeremy still protests his innocence after 29 years. It seems that in his own mind as he expressed to Julie that he really had committed the perfect crime..

[lookout]

 That being the case,Steve,,then Jeremy has beaten off 27 mental health workers who are trained in every field of mental illness,the polygram and any other assessment that has been conducted on Jeremy,,making him the most clever psychopathic monster in the history of man,having never been detected as a raving lunatic.
Who but a raving lunatic would murder 5 people including 2 children ?
Are you honestly saying that Jeremy has beaten the system ??

[Steve_uk]

That being the case,Steve,,then Jeremy has beaten off 27 mental health workers who are trained in every field of mental illness,the polygram and any other assessment that has been conducted on Jeremy,,making him the most clever psychopathic monster in the history of man,having never been detected as a raving lunatic.
Who but a raving lunatic would murder 5 people including 2 children ?
Are you honestly saying that Jeremy has beaten the system ??

Yes I'm afraid I am lookout,and I blame drugs partly,the scourge of the modern age. It was Jeremy's need for a quick fix to relieve the monotony of the humdrum on the tractor,but of course all giving the brain a certain numbness,which is why I could never partake; Jeremy also thought he had tied Julie in with her cannabis dealing,the sleeping pills and the telephone calls.

[lookout]

Yes I'm afraid I am lookout,and I blame drugs partly,the scourge of the modern age. It was Jeremy's need for a quick fix to relieve the monotony of the humdrum on the tractor,but of course all giving the brain a certain numbness,which is why I could never partake; Jeremy also thought he had tied Julie in with her cannabis dealing,the sleeping pills and the telephone calls.

Right,,well remind me to further my education regarding psychiatry,because by all accounts,it seems to be a well-paid mugs game.

[Steve_uk]

Right,,well remind me to further my education regarding psychiatry,because by all accounts,it seems to be a well-paid mugs game.

How does anyone else really know what is going through another's mind? Jeremy had the best training going with his education at Gresham's before those militaristic teachers who droned on yet got very little out of Jeremy, perfect for the Police interrogations where Jeremy had very little to say realizing near silence was the safest option,as Roger Wilkes discovered when he came to write his book. Jeremy realized that his cocktail of central nervous system stimulants could blunt his emotions and gird up his loins for the deed,otherwise he was quite squeamish being an A blood type by biology. He took his cannabis and his cocaine,and after they had worn off and he had consumed his breakfast he sat down to talk to DS Jones and Bob Miller.

[lookout]

 You tell a fine tale,Steve. Full of ideas and cold cabbage.

 Though I have to admit that a strict upbringing coupled with a school run with military precision,sets you in good stead for any sort of an interrogation,especially that which you know nothing about !

[Steve_uk]

You tell a fine tale,Steve. Full of ideas and cold cabbage.

 Though I have to admit that a strict upbringing coupled with a school run with military precision,sets you in good stead for any sort of an interrogation,especially that which you know nothing about !

Jeremy was very good at acting a little dimmer than he already was,rather like Gerda in the Agatha Christie novel "The Hollow",but Julie knew he was the culprit and Jeremy knew she knew..

[lookout]

Jeremy was very good at acting a little dimmer than he already was,rather like Gerda in the Agatha Christie novel "The Hollow",but Julie knew he was the culprit and Jeremy knew she knew..

But Julie couldn't say it outright ! Even at the mortuary,Julie asked a dead Sheila who'd done it. What a peculiar thing to do. I believe that both Sheila and Julie attended a clairvoyant ?