What time did everyone die if it was Jeremy ?

[grahameb]

I'm not sure how much was recorded, but wasn't it claimed that tapes were recorded over because they weren't requested for 30 days?

Someone said on the forum that there were six copies made? I believe they were ordered by a judge that they were not to be destroyed because of an ongoing appeal. I can't remember precisely?

[gringo]

I'm not sure how much was recorded, but wasn't it claimed that tapes were recorded over because they weren't requested for 30 days?

  I think it was the tapes of the call/calls to police that were recorded and disposed of after 30 days , Harters. If not requested within 30 days they were taped over but as Jeremy wasn't arrested or charged within this time limit then the tapes of his phone call to police and Neville's call ,if this one did happen, were not requested and therefore taped over.
    The audio tapes of the raid are a different matter and are not the ones disposed of.

[scipio_usmc]

  I think it was the tapes of the call/calls to police that were recorded and disposed of after 30 days , Harters. If not requested within 30 days they were taped over but as Jeremy wasn't arrested or charged within this time limit then the tapes of his phone call to police and Neville's call ,if this one did happen, were not requested and therefore taped over.

correct they were recorded over

    The audio tapes of the raid are a different matter and are not the ones disposed of.

I have not seen any evidence to establish they taped the radio calls of the fire team.  There certianly is no reaosn to believe they exist today because the defense would have requested copies.  The defense went to court for access to all records related to such and received a copy of the transcript that was made of the calls by someone who was supposedly listening and recording by hand.  Why would someone be recording by hand if it was being tape recorded? 

At any rate the defense won access to the records but later demanded to see the originals to make sure they were not edited.  Why would the defense demand originals instea dof the tapes to compare to the copies if such tapes actually existed?  They seem to be one of those wivestales that this case has so many of floating around.

[grahameb]

correct they were recorded over

I have not seen any evidence to establish they taped the radio calls of the fire team.  There certianly is no reaosn to believe they exist today because the defense would have requested copies.  The defense went to court for access to all records related to such and received a copy of the transcript that was made of the calls by someone who was supposedly listening and recording by hand.  Why would someone be recording by hand if it was being tape recorded? 

At any rate the defense won access to the records but later demanded to see the originals to make sure they were not edited.  Why would the defense demand originals instea dof the tapes to compare to the copies if such tapes actually existed?  They seem to be one of those wivestales that this case has so many of floating around.

I believe they did scipio and they were denied them as they are being held under PII. Even the CCRC asked for them to be released, but Essex Police flatly refused. I remember reading of this, but please don't ask me who wrote it cos I can't remember? But I think that was the general gist of it?

[scipio_usmc]

I believe they did scipio and they were denied them as they are being held under PII. Even the CCRC asked for them to be released, but Essex Police flatly refused. I remember reading of this, but please don't ask me who wrote it cos I can't remember? But I think that was the general gist of it?

I can't find any reference from the defense that requested or argued over the release of tapes or any records of tapes being denied because of PII.  Indeed there would be no basis for a court to force release of the written transcript of a recording but to allow withholding the recording that contains the same exact information on the basis of PII.  If a court ruled that PII prevented release it would prevent release of both the recording and transcribing of that recording. 

This appears to be one of those things made up by Jeremy defenders and not coming from his lawyers or the legal filings.

 

   

[lookout]

 Because the defence probably weren't aware that the tapes existed. Like a lot of other things that they were unaware of.They were trying to fight the case with one hand behind their backs.

[Adam]

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,5213.0.html

[Adam]

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,5200.0.html

[Caroline]

Adam, if you're going to post links please state why they are there - at least.

[Adam]

Ok. Will do.

Those links related to Lookout claiming the trial was unfair.

[lookout]

 Believe it or not,I've had to go and see a schizophrenic who keeps saying there's a monkey in the house ! I've been 3 times already,she's hallucinating badly,poor soul.

[Alias]

Believe it or not,I've had to go and see a schizophrenic who keeps saying there's a monkey in the house ! I've been 3 times already,she's hallucinating badly,poor soul.

 

[lookout]

She's pretty bad,Alias and said she was going to ring pest control. I've been in there 3 times already to try and reassure her but she's not having any.
We got her into hospital last year to be assessed,but she made a run for it,saying there was nothing wrong with her. All her lights are blazing,so I can see a sleepless night ahead.
To be honest,she looks a bit scary tonight.

[Alias]

She's pretty bad,Alias and said she was going to ring pest control. I've been in there 3 times already to try and reassure her but she's not having any.
We got her into hospital last year to be assessed,but she made a run for it,saying there was nothing wrong with her. All her lights are blazing,so I can see a sleepless night ahead.
To be honest,she looks a bit scary tonight.

Call a doctor.

[lookout]

Call a doctor.

I will do if she starts kicking off. Jeeze,you should see inside the house ! It reflects her tortured mind.