The police's 'late late' framing decision. Why was it taken ?

[Adam]

After supporting Jeremy for one month, the police made a complete U turn and decided to frame him. Instructing the lab technicians to expertly put incriminating blood in the silencer.

This of course meant several policemen wanted to ruin an innocent man's life, reputation and freedom. An innocent man who had just lost his family as well.

Taff Jones was against this. But had no evidence of Jeremy's innocence. Or did he ? But then why didn't he take that evidence to higher bodies ? Or were they also in on it ?

The police were in a no win situation. Get a 'guilty' verdict and face severe criticism in getting it wrong in the beginning. Get a 'not guilty' verdict and face even more criticism. Jeremy may even sue. There was also the chance of the framing attempt being discovered. Meaning dozens of police officers and lab technicians being prosecuted.

There was no financial incentive to frame. And it was a lot more work for everyone involved. Everyone relying on each other to not retract or make a mistake.

Why do people think the police went for the 'late late' frame ?

[Jan]

After supporting Jeremy for one month, the police made a complete U turn and decided to frame him. Instructing the lab technicians to expertly put incriminating blood in the silencer. What a load of Tosh - who said that

This of course meant several policemen wanted to ruin an innocent man's life, reputation and freedom. An innocent man who had just lost his family as well. Some people think they did not know he was innocent they just thought he did it but had themselves made a mess of the crime scene and how they investigated it - not sure that's my opinion

Taff Jones was against this. But had no evidence of Jeremy's innocence. Or did he ? But then why didn't he take that evidence to higher bodies ? Or were they also in on it ? How do you know what he did before his tragic death or what is on the original file?

The police were in a no win situation. Get a 'guilty' verdict and face severe criticism in getting it wrong in the beginning. Get a 'not guilty' verdict and face even more criticism. Jeremy may even sue. There was also the chance of the framing attempt being discovered. Meaning dozens of police officers and lab technicians being prosecuted. Stop going on about the lab technicians? or show me someone has accused them of any wrong doing?

There was no financial incentive to frame. And it was a lot more work for everyone involved. Everyone relying on each other to not retract or make a mistake. I would think that is the case in many other MOJ , but it still happened

Why do people think the police went for the 'late late' frame ?

[Adam]

I will post the recent threads. You must have missed them.

[Jan]

Adam

I believe that a lot of things that were said about Jeremy during the trial were part of a "character assassination"

you have formed an image of him in your mind mostly from what Julie and a few members of the family said .

1) Do you think even if it was true , and a lot of posters have said they don't think he was a particularly
nice man - that being arrogant and possibly selfish ( although recall Barbara Wilsons first glowing statement he was not that bad)  Make you a murderer?
2) Experts are still arguing and giving different opinions on the blood in the silencer or if it was even used and argue about the DNA evidence
3) so take this out of the equation - and what did the police have to go on? No forensics. they could not prove ( see court transcripts) that he could lock the window from the outside. They could not prove how he had got back to the house . They could not prove any timings of calls because they apparently had dodgy time keeping. They had no times of deaths . They did not call in ballistic experts to examine the house .

They did not have a lot to go on - but the family were on and on at them and there would have been an inquest into the murders and suicide ( because lets face it that still would have been a crime) and a lot of their mistakes would have come out . So they could not really refuse to look at the other angle could they?

As for an absolute reason why?

Why have they done it in other cases ? Tbh I have not a clue .

Perhaps you should read the link I posted yesterday about officers resigning during investigations of corruption and MOJ , so they can keep their pensions. I am sure it is only a minority of officers  but it does happen

[nugnug]

because i think the police had only just realized how badly they had screwed up and how much potential trouble they were in.

[Jan]

I will post the recent threads. You must have missed them.

don't waste your precious time I have you on ignore most of the time .

[Adam]

because i think the police had only just realized how badly they had screwed up and how much potential trouble they were in.

How had the police screwed up ? Thought Jeremy was innocent, which was the police's stance for a month.

[nugnug]

i refer you to my last thread about this subject.

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,5498.0.html

[Adam]

I have never read any criticism about the police calling the raid team in. Jeremy has never complained. There was no enquiry.

Anyway how would framing something resolve this ?

[nugnug]

read the threat i posted its fully explained.

[Adam]

i refer you to my last thread about this subject.

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,5498.0.html

Moderator. Please delete of I will repost the threads Janus missed.

Thank you.

[Alias]

Adam, why are you doing things on purpose to annoy people? What´s in it for you, there must be some reward?

[nugnug]

Moderator. Please delete of I will repost the threads Janus missed.

Thank you.

why do you want me link deleted it explains fully they why might of taken that decision.

[Jan]

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,5344.0.html

ADAM - I  repeat I have you on ignore so I can chose when to look at your posts. I don't need to read your threads - just post one piece of evidence that posters on here have said the lab technicians planted the blood.

I have read all the threads and have never seen that . In fact they were VERY annoyed that EP changed reference numbers on exhibits without their permission or knowledge and there are documents on here to show that.

if YOU have come to that conclusion through your methods of elimination then don't bother.

[Jane]

Adam, please note that YOUR links have been removed because YOU have been asked on numerous occasions NOT to keep posting your own links. YOU have been told that should you refrain from so doing, the offending links would be removed.....................and they have been. Nugs, to my knowledge has NEVER previously posted a link and the same courtesy must be extended to Nug as was originally to you.