Author Topic: The murder of 14 year-old schoolgirl Jodi Jones near Edinburgh on 30 June 2003  (Read 1068882 times)

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thats a quate from somwhere the proscution trying to make somthing out of nothing like proscuters do.

How so? A teacher suggests they were concerned about a violent essay he had written? That's evidence!

Same goes for the inscription on the pouch - damning evidence imo.

Ignore the prosecutions theory - look at the evidence.
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its nothing of the kind its an english esay.

some witing a shocking english esay is not evdence there guilty of murder.

by the dame logic half the script writers in the country are muderers.
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its nothing of the kind its an english esay.

some witing a shocking english esay is not evdence there guilty of murder.

by the dame logic half the script writers in the country are muderers.

Half the script writers in the country don't end up on trial for murdering their girlfriends...

Explain this http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/jodi-jones-killer-luke-mitchell-3407242
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its nothing of the kind its an english esay.

some witing a shocking english esay is not evdence there guilty of murder.

by the dame logic half the script writers in the country are muderers.

If Luke Mitchell is innocent or killed JJ?
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Half the script writers in the country don't end up on trial for murdering their girlfriends...

Explain this http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/jodi-jones-killer-luke-mitchell-3407242

its the daily record no explication is really needed.

its not taken seriosly as a newspaper anymore than the sun or the news of the world is.

a lurid tabliod headline does not make a case for murder.


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its the daily record no explication is really needed.

its not taken seriosly as a newspaper anymore than the sun or the news of the world is.

a lurid tabliod headline does not make a case for murder.

But I have a letter from Luke Mitchell with satanic writings on it?

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Have you followed the trial of Nathan Matthews? A tabloid has written that the grainy photo taken of him in his army fatigues is of him in a morgue. Do you think that's made up? Take a look at the photo.... It isn't all made up...
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heres wht a reputable newspaper has to say about the case.

https://t.co/9hJwF2YJs1

and about the dna evedence.
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Despite Sandra Lean's wild claims to the Press about the DNA samples the SCCRC found no reason whatsoever to the refer the case to the Court of Appeal.

In essence they found that "...he was not the victim of a miscarriage of justice and that there were no grounds to challenge his guilty verdict."

The 200-page report stated: "The Commission has decided not to refer Mr Mitchell's case to the High Court."


At least you are consistent Sandra.  Three fails in a row!
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Failures?

Left the body uncovered in the rain for 8 hours
Trampled all over the murder scene
Moved and gathered up items before forensics got there
Concentrated on one "suspect" from the off, allowing all other possibilities to slip through the net
Didn't take body temperature to estimate time of death
Ignored accurate and reliable statements and used inaccurate, vastly altered statements instead
Bleached the scene before sniffer dogs arrived
Accepted some information at face value, then quietly let it drop when it was found to be dishonest
Withheld evidence from the defence
Attempted entrapment via two different sources (including the victim's family)
Messed up the labelling of mobile phones for which already misleading and inaccurate claims had been made
Messed up the labelling and reporting of DNA results
Misrepresented DNA results
Engaged in behaviour which was "outrageous and to be deplored"
Told locals, from the day after the murder, that a 14 year old kid was the murderer
Accepted "alibis" on the say so of single individuals for anyone but their chosen suspect
Leaked lurid (and dishonest) details to the media to dehumanise their chosen suspect and his family
Tried to claim that a sniffer dog, trained to scent dead bodies and blood, which failed to alert its handler to a living, breathing, unbloodied person was proof that Mia ould not have reacted at the V
Took 12 days to find a purse, complete with uncancelled cards, at the foot of the V point on the path side (or worse, allowed someone to drop one there within the first 12 days of the so-called investigation)


And that's only a fraction of it. Failures on every level. It's beyond me how anyone can look at a list like that and not think, wait a minute, how can anyone be sure of anything the police claimed in this case?

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But I have a letter from Luke Mitchell with satanic writings on it?

I don't think anyone disputes that his school book had satanic symbols on them and that Luke had an interest in these things but the relevance of this interest then or in letters to you after is what is questionable. Were there satanic symbols at the scene?

I'm not sure why Nathan Matthews is brought up either?!

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Despite Sandra Lean's wild claims to the Press about the DNA samples the SCCRC found no reason whatsoever to the refer the case to the Court of Appeal.

In essence they found that "...he was not the victim of a miscarriage of justice and that there were no grounds to challenge his guilty verdict."

The 200-page report stated: "The Commission has decided not to refer Mr Mitchell's case to the High Court."


At least you are consistent Sandra.  Three fails in a row!

John

Rather than the frankly childish repetition of "Sandra's been wrong before" how about responding to actual discussion of the case. I responded to all your reasons for belief of guilt but you haven't replied.

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Failures?

Left the body uncovered in the rain for 8 hours
Trampled all over the murder scene
Moved and gathered up items before forensics got there
Concentrated on one "suspect" from the off, allowing all other possibilities to slip through the net
Didn't take body temperature to estimate time of death
Ignored accurate and reliable statements and used inaccurate, vastly altered statements instead
Bleached the scene before sniffer dogs arrived
Accepted some information at face value, then quietly let it drop when it was found to be dishonest
Withheld evidence from the defence
Attempted entrapment via two different sources (including the victim's family)
Messed up the labelling of mobile phones for which already misleading and inaccurate claims had been made
Messed up the labelling and reporting of DNA results
Misrepresented DNA results
Engaged in behaviour which was "outrageous and to be deplored"
Told locals, from the day after the murder, that a 14 year old kid was the murderer
Accepted "alibis" on the say so of single individuals for anyone but their chosen suspect
Leaked lurid (and dishonest) details to the media to dehumanise their chosen suspect and his family
Tried to claim that a sniffer dog, trained to scent dead bodies and blood, which failed to alert its handler to a living, breathing, unbloodied person was proof that Mia ould not have reacted at the V
Took 12 days to find a purse, complete with uncancelled cards, at the foot of the V point on the path side (or worse, allowed someone to drop one there within the first 12 days of the so-called investigation)


And that's only a fraction of it. Failures on every level. It's beyond me how anyone can look at a list like that and not think, wait a minute, how can anyone be sure of anything the police claimed in this case?

It's seems apparent these things can happen in murder investigations and these failures are used by people like Luke Mitchell to maintain innocence.

However it is clear to me now that these failures aren't unusual in cases like this.

I think it's wrong that you continue to point out these failures in cases like this, especially if you are not willing to say who killed JJ - if it wasn't Luke Mitchell..

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I don't think anyone disputes that his school book had satanic symbols on them and that Luke had an interest in these things but the relevance of this interest then or in letters to you after is what is questionable. Were there satanic symbols at the scene?

I'm not sure why Nathan Matthews is brought up either?!

Luke Mitchell appears to have an interest in satanism.

On it's own i guess it's not extraordinary but given that his 14 year old girlfriend was murdered and her body grossly mutilated then 'laid out' I'd have thought it was of significance.

With regards Nathan Matthews, I'm using this case as an example for many reasons. Imo there are aspects within the case that cross over not just in this case but the Jeremy Bamber case also.

"The police may face pressure to explain why it took so long for them to establish what had happened to Becky, who vanished from her home on 19 February. It was a week before police found her blood on the doorframe of her bedroom, and 12 days before her remains were discovered."

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/nov/11/becky-watts-stepbrother-nathan-matthews-guilty-murder
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It's seems apparent these things can happen in murder investigations and these failures are used by people like Luke Mitchell to maintain innocence.

However it is clear to me now that these failures aren't unusual in cases like this.

I think it's wrong that you continue to point out these failures in cases like this, especially if you are not willing to say who killed JJ - if it wasn't Luke Mitchell..

Furthermore, with regards the 'secrecy' you use to explain why you no longer hold power of attorney in order to represent Luke Mitchell sets off alarm bells for people like myself. What are you hiding? What are you not telling the public?

In my humble opinion you should be transparent with regards these issues as there may be apparent reasons that you may not see, that others could - which may well support Lukes guilt.

Also, the reason why you are no longer associated with the WronglyAccusedPerson/Billy Middleton 'charity' should be made public imo as there are many unsuspecting individuals who could be affected by the truth of the matter.
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