The murder of 14 year-old schoolgirl Jodi Jones near Edinburgh on 30 June 2003

[nugnug]

if sfs crimes were committed before the age of 18 it would almost impossible to find out what they were they wouldn't be on his record.

[guest154]

Right, I'm off now - can't keep up with all this stuff. I came here to discuss MoJs - it's virtually impossible to do so with all the other squabbles going on - I don't know who's who, or what your various gripes are with each other, but really, there's no way of having any sensible debate in the midst of this.

Last two questions - SF had an old criminal record from his youth- he had not been in trouble for many years by the time of Jodi's murder.

The SCCRC submission - the vast bulk of the submission was made by highly qualified legal personnel - I am not a lawyer, and would not dream of trying to behave like one - I think I explained earlier that the submission included a large number of legal arguments, tied to the actual practicalities of the case as it progressed. I am not qualified to make those arguments, and was very, very grateful indeed, for the input and assistance of those who did that, pro bono, on Luke's behalf.

You shouldn't leave - just log off for a while. But come back  - if allowed and all the this spamming stops then I believe there is a lot more left to be said - particularly when you hear back from the courts.

[grahameb]

Right, I'm off now - can't keep up with all this stuff. I came here to discuss MoJs - it's virtually impossible to do so with all the other squabbles going on - I don't know who's who, or what your various gripes are with each other, but really, there's no way of having any sensible debate in the midst of this.

Last two questions - SF had an old criminal record from his youth- he had not been in trouble for many years by the time of Jodi's murder.

The SCCRC submission - the vast bulk of the submission was made by highly qualified legal personnel - I am not a lawyer, and would not dream of trying to behave like one - I think I explained earlier that the submission included a large number of legal arguments, tied to the actual practicalities of the case as it progressed. I am not qualified to make those arguments, and was very, very grateful indeed, for the input and assistance of those who did that, pro bono, on Luke's behalf.

Ok keep up the good work. Enjoyed reading your book. I recommend others to read it as well.

[andrea]

Wouldnt a CRB check show any previous convictions?  My friend had an offence show on hers that she did when she was 15

[guest154]

Wouldnt a CRB check show any previous convictions?  My friend had an offence show on hers that she did when she was 15

My CRB shows something from 15 too -  but maybe it is different in Scotland?

[Chelsea]

You seem disappointed that Sandra has vanished Mat. Yet the whole time she was on here you were arguing with Grahame like a couple of old woman. I wanted to ask her some questions too, but darent as you two were squabbling

[andrea]

Could be, but i doubt it. If you have a criminal conviction there will be a record of it somewhere. There has to be, especially if you want to work with vulnerable adults or children, a check has to be done to see if youre suitable.

[nugnug]

there will be a record of it somwhere yes but it would be much harder to find.

[guest154]

You seem disappointed that Sandra has vanished Mat. Yet the whole time she was on here you were arguing with Grahame like a couple of old woman. I wanted to ask her some questions too, but darent as you two were squabbling

I am dissapointed. I had a lot more to ask her. But if you look back, when I said numerous times to get back on topic or cut the spam I was ignored.

[andrea]

there will be a record of it somwhere yes but it would be much harder to find.

The police will have a record of any previous convictions, its the police who provide the information for CRB checks.

[nugnug]

we cant do a crb on him.

[Chelsea]

I am dissapointed. I had a lot more to ask her. But if you look back, when I said numerous times to get back on topic or cut the spam I was ignored.

I was very disappointed too. There was far more I wanted to ask Sandra. However, I doubt she will come back again. It was almost like you had picked your moment

[guest154]

I was very disappointed too. There was far more I wanted to ask Sandra. However, I doubt she will come back again. It was almost like you had picked your moment

No - me and Grahame were told to take it into another topic set up by a mod. I did try, I replied to posts in there.

we cant do a crb on him.

'we'?

[andrea]

nugnug a criminal record shows everything from 16 and onwards.

A CRB will show a conviction or caution before you are 16, my friend had a caution at 15 it was on her CRB.

[Chelsea]

I am always very careful in what I say. I have just finished researching the posts of Lithium, Mat and Lamberton. Some of them go away back to 2011. Lithium was confronted by Roch earlier as to his previous identity. We never were told, as he vanished until just now.

The posts by Lithium, Mat, Rhodes and John Lamberton are written by the same person. Same theme, same structure, same methods, same grammatical errors. Rather like a fingerprint.