the police had a very good reason to want to frame jeremy.

[nugnug]

an armed unit had no real excuse to piss around outside.

the orignal team did but not the armed unit.

[Jane]

Wrong.

It is standard procedure to bring in experts in a hostage situation where guns are involved.

Did you expect two old codgers like Bews & Miller to go charging in there unarmed ? Why didn't Jeremy ? Oh I forgot, he was afraid.

I've yet to hear of a potential hostage incident where the police have sent/allowed to go in a civilian  before their own entry. There was NEVER any question of Jeremy going in. Did they not tell him to wait for them?

[Adam]

I've yet to hear of a potential hostage incident where the police have sent/allowed to go in a civilian  before their own entry. There was NEVER any question of Jeremy going in. Did they not tell him to wait for them?

So on the night everyone agreed the best thing to do was wait for the 'armed' raid team. Jeremy seemed quite happy to wait. Drawing maps and sitting in the car.

Jeremy had rang the police because he was frightened. Poor baby.  After what he told Bews & Miller I bet they were frightened as well.

[Jan]

This forum have all agreed that the relatives or Julie did not try to frame Jeremy. It is preposterous to suggest they did. Thread already created.  IT IS PREPOSTOROUS FOR YOU TO SAY THIS FORUM ALL AGREE ON ANYTHING- JUST CREATING A THREAD DOES NOT MAKE IT FACT

Julie approached the police but had nothing of any value to say. Stan Jones coached her. The silencer handed in by the relatives was of no use.? NOT EVEN SURE WHAT YOUR POINT IS - EVEN IF SHE HAD BEEN A DEFENCE WITNESS SHE WOULD HAVE BEEN OF VALUE -?

The police cleaned up the handed in silencer and told the lab technicians to expertly put incriminating blood & DNA in it. THAT  IS NOT A CONSENSUS OF OPINION - UNLESS IT IS YOURS? SOME THINK IT WAS NOT EVEN USED - OTHER THINK IT WAS NOT HANDELED IN A FORENSIC WAY AND SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN USED AS EVIDENCE .

Not sure if this was the reason why. Calling the raid team in after what Jeremy told them seems like protocol to me.SO WHY WERE THEY NOT THERE IMMEDIATELY - WHY WERE THEY CALLED OFF THEN CALLED IN AGAIN?

[Adam]

The relatives did not have the time, expertise, financial need and courage to frame Jeremy. Thread already created.

Julie approached the police after lots of soul searching. The police had nothing on her.

Rule them out of the equation.

[Adam]

A month after the massacre, how were the police going to frame Jeremy ?

They could use the recently handed in silencer and get the lab technicians to expertly put incrimination blood inside. That''s how.

[Jan]

So on the night everyone agreed the best thing to do was wait for the 'armed' raid team. Jeremy seemed quite happy to wait. Drawing maps and sitting in the car.

Jeremy had rang the police because he was frightened. Poor baby.  After what he told Bews & Miller I bet they were frightened as well.

Read the police statements - he was told to wait and meet the police outside.

Why would they be frightened - they had armed back up available and apparently were "trained professionals"

[Jane]

So on the night everyone agreed the best thing to do was wait for the 'armed' raid team. Jeremy seemed quite happy to wait. Drawing maps and sitting in the car.

Jeremy had rang the police because he was frightened. Poor baby.  After what he told Bews & Miller I bet they were frightened as well.

Are you suggesting that some sort of discussion took place about kitting Jeremy out with protective clothing and sending him in to do a recce? Whether or not he was happy to wait isn't part of the equation.

[Jan]

A month after the massacre, how were the police going to frame Jeremy ?

They could use the recently handed in silencer and get the lab technicians to expertly put incrimination blood inside. That''s how.

That has come from you - that is not what any of  us think - read my previous post .

The lab technicians were angry with the police about the paperwork handling  - I have not seen anyone on here accuse the lab technicians - I think you should be a bit more careful about what you write.

[Adam]

Yes. They decided to call armed back up. Who decided to force entry at daylight.

Numug is saying the police should have gone in straight away. Because they did not, that is why they framed Jeremy. A month later.

[Jan]

Yes. They decided to call armed back up. Who decided to force entry at daylight.

Numug is saying the police should have gone in straight away. Because they did not, that is why they framed Jeremy. A month later.

He is saying it is a possibility .

If that was your children in that house and there was NO SOUND and NO  SIGN OF LIFE  what would you have expected the police to do?

[Jane]

This forum have all agreed that the relatives or Julie did not try to frame Jeremy. It is preposterous to suggest they did. Thread already created.

Julie approached the police but had nothing of any value to say. Stan Jones coached her. The silencer handed in by the relatives was of no use.

The police cleaned up the handed in silencer and told the lab technicians to expertly put incriminating blood & DNA in it.

Not sure if this was the reason why. Calling the raid team in after what Jeremy told them seems like protocol to me.

I imagine that it's highly unlikely that most members will agree with ANYTHING said by you, irrelevant of how many threads you create.

[Caroline]

A month after the massacre, how were the police going to frame Jeremy ?

They could use the recently handed in silencer and get the lab technicians to expertly put incrimination blood inside. That''s how.

There seems to be an echo or a parrot in here but whatever it is, it's getting the hang of things! 

[Adam]

That has come from you - that is not what any of  us think - read my previous post .

The lab technicians were angry with the police about the paperwork handling  - I have not seen anyone on here accuse the lab technicians - I think you should be a bit more careful about what you write.

So how did the police frame Jeremy one month after the massacre ?

The relatives did not have the time, knowledge of blood types, courage, financial need or blood planting expertise to frame Jeremy.

How did the blood get into the silencer if the police did not tell the lab technicians to do so ?

[Jane]

So how did the police frame Jeremy one month after the massacre ?

The relatives did not have the time, knowledge of blood types, courage, financial need or blood planting expertise to frame Jeremy.

How did the blood get into the silencer if the police did not tell the lab technicians to do so ?

The question COULD be: How do YOU think the police framed Jeremy? As you obviously don't think they did, I imagine you'll be as interested in anything we have to say about it, as are we with what you repeatedly dish out.