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[Alias]

Scipio, I am really interested in your take on the bloodfree pendant-mark on Sheila´s neck, how it got to be there. You seem to have a very fixed idea of how she was positioned when she was shot - but I am sure you can explain this. I am not being snarky here, I am genuinely interested in your input about this.

My question is in post #370 above.

[scipio_usmc]

Something else about this photo. There is a clear blood-free area under the lower shot where Sheila´s necklace pendance had been. Any suggestions as to how that could have happened? Scipio? I am genuinely interested in what you have to say about this, I know we are NOT best of friends, but push it aside for a minute.



This just to show the shape of the pendant.


I never noticed before that Sheila was wearing earrings (and a watch, had seen that). Would you go to bed to sleep with earrings on?
I know I don´t, would bother the hell out of me, but people are different.

Someone who actually knows her would have to comment on if she usually wore jewelry to bed or not.  I actually asked about such in the past but no one could find any evidence of any witnesses being asked about her habits with regard to such.  I asked the same about Nevill since he had a watch on.  Some women take off watches and jewerly as soon as they arrive home an donly wear them out of the house others wear them always.  There is no way to know her normal habits when staying somewhere besides home without a witness who would actually be in a position to answer being asked.

I'm not sure what you are asking about the pendant exactly.  If an item is flat against the skin and blood is flowing the item can divert blood to go around it, if there is a gap the blood can get behind it. It can also block back spatter from landing.  So someone full of spatter can have voids on their skin if the items that caused the voids are removed.       

Pendants can float around while the body is moving so can end up in different places at different times.  These are general principles that can be applied but you need to have an expert look in great detail and to apply their trade to know very specific things.  I know enough about spatter and so forth to be able to question experts and actually comprehend what they are saying but you need another expert to give  a second opinion to see if they are fully correct about every detail.

I don't know if this offers you any use at all or not.

[scipio_usmc]

Scipio, I am really interested in your take on the bloodfree pendant-mark on Sheila´s neck, how it got to be there. You seem to have a very fixed idea of how she was positioned when she was shot - but I am sure you can explain this. I am not being snarky here, I am genuinely interested in your input about this.

My question is in post #370 above.

I answered it to the best extent I could.  I am not ignoring you, I try to answer all posts I see but there are so many responses it takes time to get to them.  I'm not a paid plant so have other stuff to do in between posting here. Plus I like to have some fun.

This movie has a great ending:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1297919/

People should watch some movies and have some fun.

[mike tesko]

Why does blood appear to run / flow / leak in two different directions from the lower of the two bukket wounds to Sheila's neck, yet only appear to run in one direction from the upper fatal wound>

[mike tesko]

In the following diagram, I have labelled the three directional flows of blood, A, B and C, respectively, to try and demonstrate that there was a lengthy delay between both shots (see flow A and B) being fired:-

[mike tesko]

Look here:-

[mike tesko]

Clearly, the blood flow at A, which has already dried and is fading, travels in a vertical direction as if Sheila was upright and maybe twisted or off balance at the time she received this shot. Whereas, the blood flow at B is more horizontal in appearance and appears to still have oxygen in the blood which was a shot inflicted when she was still very much alive, but laying down...

One (flow A) which is vertical in orientation and without oxygen, the other (flow B) horizontal in nature still with oxygen in the blood...

[mike tesko]

Point I am seeking to make, is that the same configured rifle could not possibly have inflicted both wounds in the same action, there had to be a lengthy delay between the first shot (flow A) and the second shot (flow B)...

[lookout]

 The dried area of blood is a mixture of plasma ( lighter than blood ) so would flow like water. It appears before the actual blood starts to flow. The plasma would have flowed faster from the wound as it's 50 odd % part of the component of blood,with blood being the remaining 40 odd %.

I can see that Sheila would have been in a sitting position before she lolled sideways,because of the pattern of the flow.

[lookout]

 Looking at this case from a medical point of view rather than a criminal one,,I'd say that the tragedy was caused by the two women !

[Alias]

I can see what you mean, Mike.

Scipio, thanks fo answer. That necklace really was "glued" to Sheila´s neck. Her neck must have been wet - either from a shower or from sweat.
I am convinced, as it seems there is agreement on, that she was in an upright position for the first shot, so it is a little puzzling that the necklace didn´t quite follow the law of gravity and hung freely down.

[mike tesko]

I can see what you mean, Mike.

Scipio, thanks fo answer. That necklace really was "glued" to Sheila´s neck. Her neck must have been wet - either from a shower or from sweat.
I am convinced, as it seems there is agreement on, that she was in an upright position for the first shot, so it is a little puzzling that the necklace didn´t quite follow the law of gravity and hung freely down.

Hi Alias,

Good points, and I am in agrrement with what you have brought to everyones attention...

Well done...

[susan]

Alias good point about Sheila's necklace I think she had taken a shower have always thought that.

[lookout]

I can see what you mean, Mike.

Scipio, thanks fo answer. That necklace really was "glued" to Sheila´s neck. Her neck must have been wet - either from a shower or from sweat.
I am convinced, as it seems there is agreement on, that she was in an upright position for the first shot, so it is a little puzzling that the necklace didn´t quite follow the law of gravity and hung freely down.

Excellent,,Alias. Either way,sweat or wet,it allows us all to think deeply,the reasons for both.,Well done girl.

[Alias]

Thanks.
I just tried it with a necklace chain about the thickness of Sheila´s (I don´t have a pendant similar to hers - perhaps someone else does who can try this simple experiment?). Put water on my neck and on the necklace - it stuck, also when I leaned forward. My skin is only damp now (did this eight minutes ago,) it still sticks.
I think her hair was wet and water ran from it to her neck, perhaps also damp skin from recent shower, I always thought that her hair looks as if it was freshly washed and just left to dry without combing - this further bolsters that theory.

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