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Offline mike tesko

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Re: June Bamber, (accomplice) the killer...
« Reply #45 on: June 02, 2014, 08:06:PM »
Reviewers have identified the evidence which places June out of the bed, her being shot out of the bed and as a result of being shot out of bed, how she fell onto the bed where she received other bullet wound injuries. Evidence does exist to prove that June was initially shot out of bed and that she fell onto the bed, and there was obviously something of an altercation on the bed after June had fallen upon the bed, resulting in June being shot on the bed, including the shot between the eyes. June was on the bed, thats where DC Clarke saw her laying alongside Sheila before he left the scene to go with Jeremy back to his cottage to take a witness statement from him. Clarke told Ann Eaton within hours of having seen Junes and Sheila's bodies on the bed, that their bodies had been discovered on the bed with a rifle between the bodies on the bed, and a bible on Sheila's chest...

You cannot say there is no evidence to prove this because DC Clark attended the scene and saw the two bodies on the bed, and the first chance he got to tell anyone about anything he had seen, was when he spoke to Ann Eaton that same morning whilst the evidence of June and Sheila being in the bed together, was still very fresh in his memory - so that is real evidence to show that police must have, and did move and disturb two bodies on the bed, and move them off the bed, one either side of the bed, and it was the police and no-one else who stage managed the scene in the bedroom in time for PC Bird to photograph it, with a view to presenting these photographs as proof of how the bodies of June and Sheila had been found upon entry to the farmhouse, when it was not...
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Re: June Bamber, (accomplice) the killer...
« Reply #46 on: June 02, 2014, 08:27:PM »
The only blood found on the bedroom carpet, was blood which originated from June Bamber...
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Re: June Bamber, (accomplice) the killer...
« Reply #47 on: June 02, 2014, 09:00:PM »
I do not believe that June Bamber got shot five times whilst sleeping in bed, and then got out of bed to wander around the bedroom, I think her blood got all over the bedroom carpet as a result of her  being shot on the bed and  trying to dodge the bullets...

By the time the fifth bullet struck her body she had collapsed into unconsciouness back on the bed, then Sheila simply finished her off with an additional two bullets...
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Re: June Bamber, (accomplice) the killer...
« Reply #48 on: June 02, 2014, 09:04:PM »
Reviewers have identified the evidence which places June out of the bed, her being shot out of the bed and as a result of being shot out of bed, how she fell onto the bed where she received other bullet wound injuries. Evidence does exist to prove that June was initially shot out of bed and that she fell onto the bed, and there was obviously something of an altercation on the bed after June had fallen upon the bed, resulting in June being shot on the bed, including the shot between the eyes. June was on the bed, thats where DC Clarke saw her laying alongside Sheila before he left the scene to go with Jeremy back to his cottage to take a witness statement from him. Clarke told Ann Eaton within hours of having seen Junes and Sheila's bodies on the bed, that their bodies had been discovered on the bed with a rifle between the bodies on the bed, and a bible on Sheila's chest...

You cannot say there is no evidence to prove this because DC Clark attended the scene and saw the two bodies on the bed, and the first chance he got to tell anyone about anything he had seen, was when he spoke to Ann Eaton that same morning whilst the evidence of June and Sheila being in the bed together, was still very fresh in his memory - so that is real evidence to show that police must have, and did move and disturb two bodies on the bed, and move them off the bed, one either side of the bed, and it was the police and no-one else who stage managed the scene in the bedroom in time for PC Bird to photograph it, with a view to presenting these photographs as proof of how the bodies of June and Sheila had been found upon entry to the farmhouse, when it was not...

Ann Eaton claimed in 1991 that someone told her June and Sheila were in bed, and that she thinks it was Clarke but wasn't sure.  The police though all say their bodies were found on the floor.

Eaton could have misunderstood or could have been told by someone not there but there is no evidence to suggest it is true even if someone told it to her.

The evidence is the complete opposite that she was shot in bed then got up.

Once again why woudl she shoot them in the middle of the night of all times?  Why would she shoot everyone but Sheila then let Sheila get the gun to shoot her?

It still makes no sense and whether she was shot in bed or standing doesn't increase the chance of her shooting anyone.  You have no evidence she shot anyone you just claim there is no evidence to prove for sure she didn't. 

The stalemate I described earlier would not change even if it could be shown June had been standing when she was shot.       
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Re: June Bamber, (accomplice) the killer...
« Reply #49 on: June 02, 2014, 09:24:PM »
June Bamber shot the child victims, and then fought overpowered and killed her husband, downstairs...

If Sheila had been wearing the nightdress worn by June, everyone would have been convinced of Sheila's culpability - Sheila was one of the shooters, June was the other, Sheila had no need to load any additional rounds into the gun that were used in the shootings, June was responsible for completing that duty...
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Re: June Bamber, (accomplice) the killer...
« Reply #50 on: June 02, 2014, 09:31:PM »
 The three adults were all found in the most awkward of positions,,especially the two women,,and it doesn't sit right with me as far as I'm concerned. 
Sheilas' head was too near the bedside table,,and June looked as though she may have been in a sitting position on the floor with the door as a support.  These are what I imagine in my mind.I don't expect anyone to think the same.

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Re: June Bamber, (accomplice) the killer...
« Reply #51 on: June 02, 2014, 10:02:PM »
June Bamber shot the child victims, and then fought overpowered and killed her husband, downstairs...

If Sheila had been wearing the nightdress worn by June, everyone would have been convinced of Sheila's culpability - Sheila was one of the shooters, June was the other, Sheila had no need to load any additional rounds into the gun that were used in the shootings, June was responsible for completing that duty...

June did not lay down on the bed and allow Sheila to take control of the gun and shoot her...

June used a crocheted cloth mat to carry additional rounds upstairs to the bedroom where June proceeded to load up the gun with the last bullets. Once she had loaded up the gun, she was confronted by Sheila who took possession of the gun with 8 rounds loaded into it. SHEILA then shot June, who fell back onto the bed, Sheila kept on firing bullet after bullet whilst a wounded June Bamber attempt to avoid the aim of the rifle in Sheila's possession. Once Sheila had killed off June, she made her way over to the window, and rested the rifle against the left hand jamb - soon to be visible to the eagle eyed WPC Julia Jeapes, who duly passed a radio message to that fact...
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Re: June Bamber, (accomplice) the killer...
« Reply #52 on: June 03, 2014, 12:56:PM »
Perhaps Crispy did it?? He was the only one left alive at the end of it all!  ;D ;D
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Re: June Bamber, (accomplice) the killer...
« Reply #53 on: June 03, 2014, 04:06:PM »
Hi Caroline 
stop copying Adams posts he always blames poor Crispy ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: June Bamber, (accomplice) the killer...
« Reply #54 on: June 03, 2014, 06:25:PM »
Hi Caroline 
stop copying Adams posts he always blames poor Crispy ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Think about it Susan, the barks heard over the telephone, his hiding under the bed. Doesn't fool me! If they tested that hair on the silencer, I reckon it would have belonged to guess who?  ;)
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Re: June Bamber, (accomplice) the killer...
« Reply #55 on: June 03, 2014, 06:38:PM »
Think about it Susan, the barks heard over the telephone, his hiding under the bed. Doesn't fool me! If they tested that hair on the silencer, I reckon it would have belonged to guess who?  ;)



And the fact that he was hiding under the bed PROVES his guilt ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: June Bamber, (accomplice) the killer...
« Reply #56 on: June 03, 2014, 07:01:PM »
Caroline/April

Adam will be so pleased we have finally agreed one of his posts ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: June Bamber, (accomplice) the killer...
« Reply #57 on: June 03, 2014, 07:47:PM »
Was Crispy ever paw-printed? Didn´t think so! One of many things that makes you go, hmmmmm.  8)

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Re: June Bamber, (accomplice) the killer...
« Reply #58 on: June 03, 2014, 07:56:PM »
Was Crispy ever paw-printed? Didn´t think so! One of many things that makes you go, hmmmmm.  8)



It does indeed, Alias ;D ;D ;D

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Re: June Bamber, (accomplice) the killer...
« Reply #59 on: June 03, 2014, 07:56:PM »
Alias good point never thought of that maybe they are on file ;D ;D ;D ;D Adam will know ;D