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Offline mike tesko

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Re: What if?
« Reply #45 on: May 31, 2014, 08:03:PM »

Is a confrontation between Colin and Nevill documented. I understood from Colin's book that having written the letter he decided not to send it which makes it odd that he would show it to Nevill.

Hi April,

Do you not agree that if Colin never gave the letter to Ralph Bamber, nor sought him out upon taking Sheila and the boys to the farm to sound Ralph out regarding what Colin thought and believed was unacceptable behaviour on Junes part, in so far as the religeous mania and routine she always imposed upon the children whenever they came to stay at the farm, was somewhat remis of him in view of the tragedy which unfolded?
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« Reply #46 on: May 31, 2014, 08:06:PM »
April,,maybe Colin thought that if the letter was sent,,it might get opened by June,,though the way things happened,,I rather feel it was eventually passed around,or snatched from Nevilles' grasp and read out loudly by Sheila,,so it may as well have been posted for the" privacy" it attracted !


Lookout, I believe he said that having written it in anger he had second thoughts about Nevill seeing it.

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Re: What if?
« Reply #47 on: May 31, 2014, 08:19:PM »
oh thats why he dident send the letter he wanted to go and say it in person.

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Re: What if?
« Reply #48 on: May 31, 2014, 08:22:PM »

Lookout, I believe he said that having written it in anger he had second thoughts about Nevill seeing it.




Ah,right,,April. It was an awful,and insensitive letter,,I know that much.

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Re: What if?
« Reply #49 on: May 31, 2014, 08:25:PM »
well we all right stupid letters in anger i think.


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Re: What if?
« Reply #50 on: May 31, 2014, 08:25:PM »
oh thats why he dident send the letter he wanted to go and say it in person.

He meant to do that, but chickened out and just left. There was a great deal of tension, that tension had nothing to do with Jeremy, by the way.

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Re: What if?
« Reply #51 on: May 31, 2014, 08:26:PM »
 Jeremy obviously didn't know half of what went on.

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Re: What if?
« Reply #52 on: May 31, 2014, 08:39:PM »
If Colin didn't give his letter to Ralph, and he did not mention its contents upon delivering  Sheila and the boys to whf, then not only was it remis of him not to have done so, but failure to have done so, was something of a costly mistake, and underlying factor,,,
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Re: What if?
« Reply #53 on: May 31, 2014, 08:40:PM »
He meant to do that, but chickened out and just left. There was a great deal of tension, that tension had nothing to do with Jeremy, by the way.

but if he dident say anything the tensen couldn't of been anything to do with him ether.

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Re: What if?
« Reply #54 on: May 31, 2014, 08:43:PM »
but if he dident say anything the tensen couldn't of been anything to do with him ether.

No, it was between Sheila and June, the boys almost begged Colin not to go - they really did not want to be there. Says a lot!

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Re: What if?
« Reply #55 on: May 31, 2014, 08:44:PM »
but if he dident say anything the tensen couldn't of been anything to do with him ether.



I think by the time he deposited them at the farm there would have been tension between him and Sheila. Remember he's just told her that his relationship with Heather was permanent.

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Re: What if?
« Reply #56 on: May 31, 2014, 09:06:PM »


I think by the time he deposited them at the farm there would have been tension between him and Sheila. Remember he's just told her that his relationship with Heather was permanent.

Yes, of course, also that. He couldn“t get away fast enough, forced himself to stay for an hour, then OUT!

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Re: What if?
« Reply #57 on: May 31, 2014, 09:15:PM »
There is no evidence that Colin did not speak to Ralph Bamber about the intrusive nature of Junes behaviour toward the children...
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Re: What if?
« Reply #58 on: May 31, 2014, 09:22:PM »
There is no evidence that Colin did not speak to Ralph Bamber about the intrusive nature of Junes behaviour toward the children...

 Bearing in mind the nature of Colins letter to Ralph, why would he place the safety of his boys by leaving them at the mercy of June Bambers abuse, without saying anything about what he had written about?
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Re: What if?
« Reply #59 on: May 31, 2014, 09:26:PM »
Bearing in mind the nature of Colins letter to Ralph, why would he place the safety of his boys by leaving them at the mercy of June Bambers abuse, without saying anything about what he had written about?

I have just read about it in the book. He just chickened out. He admits that.