Is Sheila guilty?

[nugnug]

im kind of thinking would of wanted him to be guilty so the fact he wasnt arested means he cant of been.

[scipio_usmc]

the police wouldn't of wanted to believe his albi because it dident fit mugfords claims so im guessing that they were forced to believe by the fact it couldn't be pulled apart no much they tried.

Several people saw him at a location not close to WHF and by the time he was alone with his GF he would not have had time to reach WHF so as you say they gave up on the hit plot and switched gears to Jeremy acting directly.

The mercenary rumor seems to be why Jeremy picked his name of all names to choose. 

[Alias]

All I will say is that Jeremy B. could not have carried this out alone. I am open to the possibility that he had an accomplice.

[Adam]

I have repeatedly said Jeremy could commit the massacre alone. His supporters often claim he could not to try to show his innocence.

The massacre was committed at the perfect time for an execution. Everyone should be asleep in bed.

Jeremy had access to WHF and the element of surprise on his side. He was fully clothed, probably wearing several layers, gloves & protective head gear. He had a rifle with 11 bullets in and more bullets available.

He was up against two six year olds, a 61 year old woman & a small woman. They were managable, even if they woke up. As it happened only Sheila may have woken up for any lenght of time. Or she was lead or carried to the main bedroom while half asleep. June & the twins were shot in bed.

Only an awake Neville could prove a threat. As it proved. Jeremy was banking on Neville not waking up. One head shot into Neville when he was in bed would have killed or at least immobilised him, so Jeremy could fire more shots.

[Jane]

I have repeatedly said Jeremy could commit the massacre alone. His supporters often claim he could not to try to show his innocence.

The massacre was committed at the perfect time for an execution. Everyone should be asleep in bed.

Jeremy had access to WHF and the element of surprise on his side. He was fully clothed, probably wearing several layers, gloves & protective head gear. He had a rifle with 11 bullets in and more bullets available.

He was up against two six year olds, a 61 year old woman & a small woman. They were managable, even if they woke up. As it happened only Sheila may have woken up for any lenght of time. Or she was lead or carried to the main bedroom while half asleep. June & the twins shot in bed.

Only an awake Neville could prove a threat. As it proved. Jeremy was banking on Neville not waking up. One head shot into Neville when he was in bed would have killed or at least immobilised him, so Jeremy could fire more shots.

So, YOU have repeatedly said.!!!!!! SUCH an enormous ego to imagine that even a fraction of what you've said has changed the thinking of ANYONE from either side of the divide. When someone DOES agree with you it's more than likely that it was their own long held belief.

[Adam]

Do you believe Jeremy 'could' have committed the massacre alone ?

If not how the hell did Sheila manage it. In a nightie without any element of surprise. Letting Neville make two phone calls. But June & the twins staying in bed ?

[lookout]

Do you believe Jeremy 'could' have committed the massacre alone ?

If not how the hell did Sheila manage it. In a nightie without any element of surprise. Letting Neville make two phone calls. But June & the twins staying in bed ?

Use your loaf. Sheila was in her " day clothes " up to a point,,as it was them which were found covered in blood most likely,,,soaking in the buckets. Hence why very little blood was found on her nightdress.

[Adam]

Oh. So Sheila committed the crime in her clothes. Then took them off and put them in a bucket. Then put her nightie on. I have never seen the proof of that.

Did she then make a cheese & pickle sandwich ?

[Adam]

Scipio made an interesting point.

Neville may have followed Jeremy into the kitchen.

It is quite clear Jeremy entered the main bedroom first. Fully loaded. Firing all 11 bullets into June & Neville.

Thinking he had killed and/or immobilised them both he went downstairs to reload.

Neville knew Jeremy was going to return upstairs fully loaded, so bravely got downstairs to confront Jeremy & try to protect the four people upstairs.

However it is still quite possible Jeremy chased Neville downstairs. But wouldn't Neville have fought Jeremy upstairs ? There was no point trying to run away and desert his family, who may still be alive.  Jeremy would have caught a fleeing, injured Neville.

[lookout]

Oh. So Sheila committed the crime in her clothes. Then took them off and put them in a bucket. Then put her nightie on. I have never seen the proof of that.

Did she then make a cheese & pickle sandwich ?

Perhaps you can explain the buckets of blood then.

[Adam]

Perhaps you can explain the buckets of blood then.

They were buckets with clothes in. Perhaps they were being washed or soaked. People do wash clothes.

There was never any suggestion at trial that Sheila changed.

Do you think Neville may have chased Jeremy downstairs, as suggested ?

[lookout]

They were buckets with clothes in. Perhaps they were being washed or soaked. People do wash clothes.

There was never any suggestion at trial that Sheila changed.

Do you think Neville may have chased Jeremy downstairs, as suggested ?

Well I'm glad my washing doesn't consist of clothes soaking in volumes of blood.

Look Adam,,that trial made a laughing stock of the whole justice system.It was an ill-prepared one in every sense of the word,,as admitted by their own senior officers. At worst,,it was an unfair one as I think everyone will admit,,even the doubters and anti's.

Give me a break.Neville chasing Jeremy downstairs ? He'd have caught up and hoofed him down the rest of them onto the floor below,,end of.

[scipio_usmc]

All I will say is that Jeremy B. could not have carried this out alone. I am open to the possibility that he had an accomplice.

Why couldn't he have carried it out alone?  What specific tasks require at least 1 additional person?  Are you tlaking about before and after or are you talking about during the actual commission?

[scipio_usmc]

Perhaps you can explain the buckets of blood then.

You mean the bucket with panties that had been bled in while she had her period? 

Well that is rather easy to explain- she bled in panties and then instead of using a maxipad or whatever she bled in more panties and soaked them in a bucket to try to salvage them instead of throwing the in the trash. Being a female apparently she was attached to them.  A man will just throw away dirty underwear or stained underwear not try to salvage them because they are inexpensive and we are lazy and in some instance don't want anyone to know how we got them dirty because it is embarrassing.

The other bucket was not reported as having blood in he water merely soaking leggings.  Whether a little blood  seeped out of her panties into the inside of her leggings has never been revealed. 

Nothing suggests this had anything to do with the murders. It has to do with women's biology.

 

 

[scipio_usmc]

Well I'm glad my washing doesn't consist of clothes soaking in volumes of blood.

Look Adam,,that trial made a laughing stock of the whole justice system.It was an ill-prepared one in every sense of the word,,as admitted by their own senior officers. At worst,,it was an unfair one as I think everyone will admit,,even the doubters and anti's.

Give me a break.Neville chasing Jeremy downstairs ? He'd have caught up and hoofed him down the rest of them onto the floor below,,end of.

There is nothing at all unfair abou tth etiral.  Nothing unfair has been established by you or anyone else alleging such.

Nevill and his killer did indeed struggle over the weapon which is why he was beaten.  EIther he pursued his killer to the kitchen or his killer pursued him.  Either way the result was the same, the killer bludgeoned him into unconsciousness then reloaded and shot him.

Those who are not objective refuse to admit this because th enotion that Sheila beat him so viciously without breaking a nail and reeciving some kind of marks on her body including medion velocity back spatter defy credibility.  So instead the beating is denied though the proof it occurred is overwhelming.