3 months and counting!!

[simong]

i think you have been bloomin brave to post your thoughts on the forum.

[Jackiepreece]

I haven't been on here recently because of certain people on here and the aggressive attitude but I want to correct  Dr p who said JB was hated by his natural parents. JB's  natural father has stated since Jeremys conviction that they gave him up to a good home and he turned out to be a bad lot but as far as I can see JB s natural mother and father who eventually married don't appear to have bothered to try to make contact with their son in 24 years which says more about them than Jeremy.  If JB does win an appeal who knows maybe his natural siblings would like contact with him and what does his mother feel
I don't believe she hates him I would like to hear that from her.  Jeremy is the one missing part of that family.

As for the nude pictures dr p I thought it was well documented on here there is no evidence JB tried to sell pictures Brett was mentioned bit I don't think there was any proof of this

Dr p to make such statements of all JB's family hate him you must have very close links to all the family and his natural family ?

Such  venom in posts sometimes comes across as you must be personally involved somehow??

[simong]

I haven't been on here recently because of certain people on here and the aggressive attitude but I want to correct  Dr p who said JB was hated by his natural parents. JB's  natural father has stated since Jeremys conviction that they gave him up to a good home and he turned out to be a bad lot but as far as I can see JB s natural mother and father who eventually married don't appear to have bothered to try to make contact with their son in 24 years which says more about them than Jeremy.  If JB does win an appeal who knows maybe his natural siblings would like contact with him and what does his mother feel
I don't believe she hates him I would like to hear that from her.  Jeremy is the one missing part of that family.

As for the nude pictures dr p I thought it was well documented on here there is no evidence JB tried to sell pictures Brett was mentioned bit I don't think there was any proof of this

Dr p to make such statements of all JB's family hate him you must have very close links to all the family and his natural family ?

Such  venom in posts sometimes comes across as you must be personally involved somehow??

I think an interview with any family member stating that they think he is innocent would be great P.R. Obviously his current defence team think otherwise and strangely his family members remain eerily silent.

[Dr Pal]

Oh, for Christ's sake. I have to say this. Sheila might have been ill, unhappy, possibly angry with June, she was still beautiful but her modelling work had dried up, her life had gone tits. But there is a massive difference between finding life a bit shit and taking a gun (or guns) and brutally destoying her entire family, especially her children, then lying down and shooting herself, getting it wrong, and doing it again. It's a complete fantasy. Look at the position of Sheila's body. She had been lifted and placed. It might not have been JB, but he was involved. Now smite me.

sense at last. Well said.

[Dr Pal]

simong, it's like doing a jigsaw. I'm crap at the intracies of evidence, I can only go on what is in front of me. Sheila obviously didn't struggle, I can't imagine her fighting with her 6ft 4in dad, Colin would have cared for the boys if they were at risk of going into care, and someone was in the house on that night with the intention of wiping out the entire family. It wasn't JB, but I think that it was on his behalf. God help me if he ever gets out.

Remember going into care was all part of his master plan like leaving the loaded gun on the kitchen table. I think the boys father would have know this don't you if thoughts of them goining into care? Again all these things neve happened, was all part of his master plan that backfired.

[Dr Pal]

I haven't been on here recently because of certain people on here and the aggressive attitude but I want to correct  Dr p who said JB was hated by his natural parents. JB's  natural father has stated since Jeremys conviction that they gave him up to a good home and he turned out to be a bad lot but as far as I can see JB s natural mother and father who eventually married don't appear to have bothered to try to make contact with their son in 24 years which says more about them than Jeremy.  If JB does win an appeal who knows maybe his natural siblings would like contact with him and what does his mother feel
I don't believe she hates him I would like to hear that from her.  Jeremy is the one missing part of that family.

As for the nude pictures dr p I thought it was well documented on here there is no evidence JB tried to sell pictures Brett was mentioned bit I don't think there was any proof of this

Dr p to make such statements of all JB's family hate him you must have very close links to all the family and his natural family ?

Such  venom in posts sometimes comes across as you must be personally involved somehow??

Not nasty comments at all, if the papers were lying why doesn't he sue them, he tried everyone one else to get money off them even his Gran, did he sue the papers if it was all lies like he says?? no..I rest my case.

[Dr Pal]

I haven't been on here recently because of certain people on here and the aggressive attitude but I want to correct  Dr p who said JB was hated by his natural parents. JB's  natural father has stated since Jeremys conviction that they gave him up to a good home and he turned out to be a bad lot but as far as I can see JB s natural mother and father who eventually married don't appear to have bothered to try to make contact with their son in 24 years which says more about them than Jeremy.  If JB does win an appeal who knows maybe his natural siblings would like contact with him and what does his mother feel
I don't believe she hates him I would like to hear that from her.  Jeremy is the one missing part of that family.

As for the nude pictures dr p I thought it was well documented on here there is no evidence JB tried to sell pictures Brett was mentioned bit I don't think there was any proof of this

Dr p to make such statements of all JB's family hate him you must have very close links to all the family and his natural family ?

Such  venom in posts sometimes comes across as you must be personally involved somehow??

I think an interview with any family member stating that they think he is innocent would be great P.R. Obviously his current defence team think otherwise and strangely his family members remain eerily silent.

no family members or close friends at the time think h's innocent, that's his problem. All his so called friendsnow are just supporters and hangers on for a little bit of fame. Many seem to be making lost of money out of Bamber at his expence.

[Dr Pal]

Oh, for Christ's sake. I have to say this. Sheila might have been ill, unhappy, possibly angry with June, she was still beautiful but her modelling work had dried up, her life had gone tits. But there is a massive difference between finding life a bit shit and taking a gun (or guns) and brutally destoying her entire family, especially her children, then lying down and shooting herself, getting it wrong, and doing it again. It's a complete fantasy. Look at the position of Sheila's body. She had been lifted and placed. It might not have been JB, but he was involved. Now smite me.

Remember also his case is now Sheila was alive in the house when the Police broke in, she then sneaked upstairs, picking up the gun, going to the bedroom to collect the bible, write an alledged suicide note and then shooting herself without the Police seeing and hearing anything while in the house too!

[Kaldin]

simong, it's like doing a jigsaw. I'm crap at the intracies of evidence, I can only go on what is in front of me. Sheila obviously didn't struggle, I can't imagine her fighting with her 6ft 4in dad, Colin would have cared for the boys if they were at risk of going into care, and someone was in the house on that night with the intention of wiping out the entire family. It wasn't JB, but I think that it was on his behalf. God help me if he ever gets out.

Remember going into care was all part of his master plan like leaving the loaded gun on the kitchen table. I think the boys father would have know this don't you if thoughts of them goining into care? Again all these things neve happened, was all part of his master plan that backfired.

He said he left the gun on the "settle" in the back kitchen - that's not the same as leaving it on the kitchen table. It wouldn't have been so handy for Sheila to find for a start.

Re the care thing, I think that conversation could have taken place. Pamela Boutflour confirmed that June was worried about Sheila at least and that things weren't right.

[Dr Pal]

simong, it's like doing a jigsaw. I'm crap at the intracies of evidence, I can only go on what is in front of me. Sheila obviously didn't struggle, I can't imagine her fighting with her 6ft 4in dad, Colin would have cared for the boys if they were at risk of going into care, and someone was in the house on that night with the intention of wiping out the entire family. It wasn't JB, but I think that it was on his behalf. God help me if he ever gets out.

Remember going into care was all part of his master plan like leaving the loaded gun on the kitchen table. I think the boys father would have know this don't you if thoughts of them goining into care? Again all these things neve happened, was all part of his master plan that backfired.

Worried could be anything, it didn't take place as the father of thechildren would have been the first to know and the gun Ralph would have put it away anyway if was left but i don't think it was.
He said he left the gun on the "settle" in the back kitchen - that's not the same as leaving it on the kitchen table. It wouldn't have been so handy for Sheila to find for a start.

Re the care thing, I think that conversation could have taken place. Pamela Boutflour confirmed that June was worried about Sheila at least and that things weren't right.

Worried could be anything, it didn't take place as the father of thechildren would have been the first to know and the gun Ralph would have put it away anyway if was left but i don't think it was.

[Dr Pal]

simong, it's like doing a jigsaw. I'm crap at the intracies of evidence, I can only go on what is in front of me. Sheila obviously didn't struggle, I can't imagine her fighting with her 6ft 4in dad, Colin would have cared for the boys if they were at risk of going into care, and someone was in the house on that night with the intention of wiping out the entire family. It wasn't JB, but I think that it was on his behalf. God help me if he ever gets out.

Remember going into care was all part of his master plan like leaving the loaded gun on the kitchen table. I think the boys father would have know this don't you if thoughts of them goining into care? Again all these things neve happened, was all part of his master plan that backfired.

the lack of gun dust, oil and finge prints proves anyway it wasn't Sheila.

He said he left the gun on the "settle" in the back kitchen - that's not the same as leaving it on the kitchen table. It wouldn't have been so handy for Sheila to find for a start.

Re the care thing, I think that conversation could have taken place. Pamela Boutflour confirmed that June was worried about Sheila at least and that things weren't right.

the lack of gun dust, oil and finger prints on the gun proves anyway it wasn't Sheila.
Could only have been him.

[Kaldin]

simong, it's like doing a jigsaw. I'm crap at the intracies of evidence, I can only go on what is in front of me. Sheila obviously didn't struggle, I can't imagine her fighting with her 6ft 4in dad, Colin would have cared for the boys if they were at risk of going into care, and someone was in the house on that night with the intention of wiping out the entire family. It wasn't JB, but I think that it was on his behalf. God help me if he ever gets out.

Remember going into care was all part of his master plan like leaving the loaded gun on the kitchen table. I think the boys father would have know this don't you if thoughts of them goining into care? Again all these things neve happened, was all part of his master plan that backfired.

Worried could be anything, it didn't take place as the father of thechildren would have been the first to know and the gun Ralph would have put it away anyway if was left but i don't think it was.
He said he left the gun on the "settle" in the back kitchen - that's not the same as leaving it on the kitchen table. It wouldn't have been so handy for Sheila to find for a start.

Re the care thing, I think that conversation could have taken place. Pamela Boutflour confirmed that June was worried about Sheila at least and that things weren't right.

Worried could be anything, it didn't take place as the father of thechildren would have been the first to know and the gun Ralph would have put it away anyway if was left but i don't think it was.

There wasn't time for them to discuss it with Colin Caffell. Remember Colin was looking after the children then and I presume they lived with him. Apparently, he didn't really like them going to the farm, so perhaps June was afraid she wouldn't see them as much.

[Dr Pal]

simong, it's like doing a jigsaw. I'm crap at the intracies of evidence, I can only go on what is in front of me. Sheila obviously didn't struggle, I can't imagine her fighting with her 6ft 4in dad, Colin would have cared for the boys if they were at risk of going into care, and someone was in the house on that night with the intention of wiping out the entire family. It wasn't JB, but I think that it was on his behalf. God help me if he ever gets out.

Remember going into care was all part of his master plan like leaving the loaded gun on the kitchen table. I think the boys father would have know this don't you if thoughts of them coining into care? Again all these things nerve happened, was all part of his master plan that backfired.

Worried could be anything, it didn't take place as the father of thechildren would have been the first to know and the gun Ralph would have put it away anyway if was left but i don't think it was.
He said he left the gun on the "settle" in the back kitchen - that's not the same as leaving it on the kitchen table. It wouldn't have been so handy for Sheila to find for a start.

Re the care thing, I think that conversation could have taken place. Pamela Boutflour confirmed that June was worried about Sheila at least and that things weren't right.

Worried could be anything, it didn't take place as the father of thechildren would have been the first to know and the gun Ralph would have put it away anyway if was left but i don't think it was.

There wasn't time for them to discuss it with Colin Caffell. Remember Colin was looking after the children then and I presume they lived with him. Apparently, he didn't really like them going to the farm, so perhaps June was afraid she wouldn't see them as much.

why put them in care if Colin was looking after them and I'm sure he would be the first you discuss it with, he was the father after all lol Again we only have Bambers word for it, what a coincidence all this happening the same night.

[Dr Pal]

I was reading the CCRC report in the media around the 11th Feb just gone, some report his lawyers can put in new evidence in the extra 3 months given but others say it can't include any more forensic evidence.
What are the true facts about the extra 3 months if anyone can add please, can they present new forensic evidence or not?
Thanks!

Mike still hasn't commented on the original question above??

[ngb1066]

simong, it's like doing a jigsaw. I'm crap at the intracies of evidence, I can only go on what is in front of me. Sheila obviously didn't struggle, I can't imagine her fighting with her 6ft 4in dad, Colin would have cared for the boys if they were at risk of going into care, and someone was in the house on that night with the intention of wiping out the entire family. It wasn't JB, but I think that it was on his behalf. God help me if he ever gets out.

Remember going into care was all part of his master plan like leaving the loaded gun on the kitchen table. I think the boys father would have know this don't you if thoughts of them goining into care? Again all these things neve happened, was all part of his master plan that backfired.

the lack of gun dust, oil and finge prints proves anyway it wasn't Sheila.

He said he left the gun on the "settle" in the back kitchen - that's not the same as leaving it on the kitchen table. It wouldn't have been so handy for Sheila to find for a start.

Re the care thing, I think that conversation could have taken place. Pamela Boutflour confirmed that June was worried about Sheila at least and that things weren't right.

the lack of gun dust, oil and finger prints on the gun proves anyway it wasn't Sheila.
Could only have been him.

Sheila's fingerprints were found on the rifle.  The limited amount of gun dust, oil and lead residue on Sheila body or clothing is evidence which can be used to support the contention that she was not the killer of the first four, but it falls far short of proof of that contention.  Remember that it has been suggested that Sheila may have washed following the shooting of the four others, before shooting herself.