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Mr. Gee

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Re: The relatives framing Jeremy in two days. Possible ?
« Reply #75 on: February 21, 2015, 11:53:AM »
Yeah - a psychopath! Someone like that night never admit their guilty  ;)
Does it include those who are innocent and keep protesting it?

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« Reply #76 on: February 21, 2015, 11:56:AM »
Does it include those who are innocent and keep protesting it?

No, those people don't change their story to fit in (so called) new evidence. There is only one truth Grahame and it doesn't change.
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« Reply #77 on: February 21, 2015, 11:58:AM »
No, those people don't change their story to fit in (so called) new evidence. There is only one truth Grahame and it doesn't change.
And neither has Jeremy change his stand from innocent to guilty. But it appears that Mugford changed her story several times?

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« Reply #78 on: February 21, 2015, 12:01:PM »
They most definitely knew him better than you or I or anyone else here.





TBH,I don't even think Sheila knew him.Well she couldn't have known of his infidelity on their wedding day that's for sure,and if he can go behind her back like that,could he have ever been trusted ?

I do like to take ALL things into consideration when someone sings the praises of another person. ;D ;D

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« Reply #79 on: February 21, 2015, 12:03:PM »
And neither has Jeremy change his stand from innocent to guilty. But it appears that Mugford changed her story several times?

Yes he has - for starters he has changed the time of phone calls to fit in one from Nevill. The phone calls for me don't add up and the fact that his story has changed looks very bad on him. If Jeremy can prove the phone calls happened, he'd be out, but having already shifted the times - who can possibly take him seriously?
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« Reply #80 on: February 21, 2015, 12:04:PM »




TBH,I don't even think Sheila knew him.Well she couldn't have known of his infidelity on their wedding day that's for sure,and if he can go behind her back like that,could he have ever been trusted ?

I do like to take ALL things into consideration when someone sings the praises of another person. ;D ;D
He certainly give the impression of being a very weak man mentally and somewhat easy to persuade if he was unfaithful to his wife on there wedding day.

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« Reply #81 on: February 21, 2015, 12:06:PM »




TBH,I don't even think Sheila knew him.Well she couldn't have known of his infidelity on their wedding day that's for sure,and if he can go behind her back like that,could he have ever been trusted ?

I do like to take ALL things into consideration when someone sings the praises of another person. ;D ;D

And that's your prerogative, however, it still stands Colin and the relatives knew those involved better then you or I or anyone here.
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Re: The relatives framing Jeremy in two days. Possible ?
« Reply #82 on: February 21, 2015, 12:08:PM »
He certainly give the impression of being a very weak man mentally and somewhat easy to persuade if he was unfaithful to his wife on there wedding day.





So to my mind,anyone like that giving any evidence,I'd take with a bucketful of salt.

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« Reply #83 on: February 21, 2015, 12:12:PM »




So to my mind,anyone like that giving any evidence,I'd take with a bucketful of salt.

Eh? Because he was unfaithful? Colin was the only REAL victim in this, he lost his two sons - he obviously had no interest in finding the killer  ::). It's a good thing you didn't choose a legal profession as a career.
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« Reply #84 on: February 21, 2015, 12:12:PM »
Yes he has - for starters he has changed the time of phone calls to fit in one from Nevill. The phone calls for me don't add up and the fact that his story has changed looks very bad on him. If Jeremy can prove the phone calls happened, he'd be out, but having already shifted the times - who can possibly take him seriously?
Times of phone calls from others like Mugford, her flatmates and even the police with their mysterious slow clock that changed times as will are conveniently forgotten in the zealous quest of some to stress the guilt of Bamber. I'm not so sure that I myself would have been able to give exact times of phone calls from various people?
In fact I can tell you that as a fact. When my stepfather died it was a time of utter confusion with one saying this and another saying that and I certainly could not even to this day give you the times certain things happen.
Then people think Bamber to have some kind of super memory. If he was guilty then to my mind the times would have bean the first thing he would have thought of. In fact his very confusion about the matter indicates to me at least that these are the recollections of an innocent man.

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« Reply #85 on: February 21, 2015, 12:13:PM »
Eh? Because he was unfaithful? Colin was the only REAL victim in this, he lost his two sons - he obviously had no interest in finding the killer  ::). It's a good thing you didn't choose a legal profession as a career.
The people who died were the only real victims.

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« Reply #86 on: February 21, 2015, 12:16:PM »
Times of phone calls from others like Mugford, her flatmates and even the police with their mysterious slow clock that changed times as will are conveniently forgotten in the zealous quest of some to stress the guilt of Bamber. I'm not so sure that I myself would have been able to give exact times of phone calls from various people?
In fact I can tell you that as a fact. When my stepfather died it was a time of utter confusion with one saying this and another saying that and I certainly could not even to this day give you the times certain things happen.
Then people think Bamber to have some kind of super memory. If he was guilty then to my mind the times would have bean the first thing he would have thought of. In fact his very confusion about the matter indicates to me at least that these are the recollections of an innocent man.

I don't expect him to have anything of the sort, nor do I expect him to change things to fit in with a log he claims has just been discovered even though it was available to the jury. And I won't make excuses for something that is clearly suspect!
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Re: The relatives framing Jeremy in two days. Possible ?
« Reply #87 on: February 21, 2015, 12:18:PM »
The people who died were the only real victims.

Ok Grahame if were being 'pedantic' Colin was/IS the only real LIVING victim!
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« Reply #88 on: February 21, 2015, 12:19:PM »
Ok Grahame if were being 'pedantic' Colin was/IS the only real LIVING victim!

It was a publicity/propaganda stunt to increase his profile.
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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Re: The relatives framing Jeremy in two days. Possible ?
« Reply #89 on: February 21, 2015, 12:21:PM »
Eh? Because he was unfaithful? Colin was the only REAL victim in this, he lost his two sons - he obviously had no interest in finding the killer  ::). It's a good thing you didn't choose a legal profession as a career.





So what's wrong in having a different viewpoint ? It's not the end of the world is it ?
I did learn about the litigation process which is connected to the nursing profession.