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Re: Unidentified Male, seen at Whf, PC Myall, at 3.45am...
« Reply #90 on: March 18, 2011, 07:43:AM »

         69 ITEMS                  MAJOR INCIDENT REPORT                                      PAGE 1 OF 2

ITEM              SU                                      FO                                                AD

       1.           0345  S11 MYALL               UNIDENT MALE 0001                      WHITE HSE FM
       2.           2011  N94                         UNIDENT MALE 0029                       PAGES LN
       3.           2015  N94                         UNIDENT MALE 0038                       PAGES LN



This is all that the photograph of the report shows unfortunately.Underneath photo it says -: The beginning of the Major Incident Report in the White House Farm Case,which records that PC MYALL claimed he saw the figure of a person inside White House Farm at 03:45 whilst Bamber was stood outside the building.

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Re: Unidentified Male, seen at Whf, PC Myall, at 3.45am...
« Reply #91 on: March 18, 2011, 07:51:AM »
Why would PC Myall be saying he saw an unidentified male person at the scene, at 3.45am, if he hadn't?
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Re: Unidentified Male, seen at Whf, PC Myall, at 3.45am...
« Reply #92 on: March 18, 2011, 07:55:AM »
It doesn't record that Pc Myall claimed his observation was made at that time, since it doesn't state where the time was obtained from. Elsewhere, you claimed this police log was made as part of the second investigation (which started in September 1985).

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Re: Unidentified Male, seen at Whf, PC Myall, at 3.45am...
« Reply #93 on: March 18, 2011, 08:02:AM »
As there is no date on it,Im wondering if it is just a survelliance log. Im pretty sure that they had JB under survelliance at sometime following the murders,once he was a suspect.Could the log just be referring to that?

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Re: Unidentified Male, seen at Whf, PC Myall, at 3.45am...
« Reply #94 on: March 18, 2011, 08:09:AM »

         69 ITEMS                  MAJOR INCIDENT REPORT                                      PAGE 1 OF 2

ITEM              SU                                      FO                                                AD

       1.           0345  S11 MYALL               UNIDENT MALE 0001                      WHITE HSE FM
       2.           2011  N94                         UNIDENT MALE 0029                       PAGES LN
       3.           2015  N94                         UNIDENT MALE 0038                       PAGES LN



This is all that the photograph of the report shows unfortunately.Underneath photo it says -: The beginning of the Major Incident Report in the White House Farm Case,which records that PC MYALL claimed he saw the figure of a person inside White House Farm at 03:45 whilst Bamber was stood outside the building.

So why doesn't anything happen between 03.45am and 08.11pm? The numbers alongside are sequential 1-3, yet the officers are different, so this is not a list of Myall related events, which might explain the time differences.

Without a date, could it be said that this refers to the surveillance placed on JB in September? Or any other incident for that matter.

Why would PC Myall be saying he saw an unidentified male person at the scene, at 3.45am, if he hadn't?

Why shouldn't he say that if that is what he saw?
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This 'MIP' does not state August 7th 1985.
Without further explanation, this log could relate to any date and any event before or after the murders at WHF.

Just seen other posts.
So, all of us agree that none of us know what we are looking at. It's come to that...

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Re: Unidentified Male, seen at Whf, PC Myall, at 3.45am...
« Reply #95 on: March 18, 2011, 08:47:AM »
Details contained in the MPI, relate to all the suspects and motor vehicles, EP wanted to trace and identify in connection with this investigation - there are several pages of info'...
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Re: Unidentified Male, seen at Whf, PC Myall, at 3.45am...
« Reply #96 on: March 18, 2011, 09:22:AM »
A rather big clue to what circumstance, or event, the reference to the 3.45am sighting of the unidentified male, can be found in 'Scot Lomax's' book, where he links it, to the sighting of the figure at the bedroom window...
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Re: Unidentified Male, seen at Whf, PC Myall, at 3.45am...
« Reply #97 on: March 18, 2011, 09:28:AM »
Details contained in the MPI, relate to all the suspects and motor vehicles, EP wanted to trace and identify in connection with this investigation - there are several pages of info'...

In my opinion, the MPI cannot be dated 7th August if it relates to all the suspects and motor vehilces etc.

To all intents and purposes and on that date the Police were under the impression 'Sheila was going beserk with a gun.' The only suspect was known as identified in Jeremy's telephone call to the Police.

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Re: Unidentified Male, seen at Whf, PC Myall, at 3.45am...
« Reply #98 on: March 18, 2011, 09:36:AM »
Not only does the MIP give details of the 3.45am sighting, by PC Myall, but the entry is dated, 7th August 1985...
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Re: Unidentified Male, seen at Whf, PC Myall, at 3.45am...
« Reply #99 on: March 18, 2011, 09:42:AM »
Not only does the MIP give details of the 3.45am sighting, by PC Myall, but the entry is dated, 7th August 1985...

Where does it detail '7th August 1985' on what has been posted on this thread?

I am sorry if I have missed it so please point it out.

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Re: Unidentified Male, seen at Whf, PC Myall, at 3.45am...
« Reply #100 on: March 18, 2011, 09:57:AM »
Not only does the MIP give details of the 3.45am sighting, by PC Myall, but the entry is dated, 7th August 1985...

Where does it detail '7th August 1985' on what has been posted on this thread?

I am sorry if I have missed it so please point it out.
... I am not trying to catch you, or anyone out, by not posting the document in question, I am unable to post it at the moment, until after CCRC makes its final decision in a few weeks time. However, what I can say, is that the individual entries in the MIP, are all dated, and timed events.,
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Re: Unidentified Male, seen at Whf, PC Myall, at 3.45am...
« Reply #101 on: March 18, 2011, 10:04:AM »
Is this sighting in relation to the sighting of someone at the window?

Is this sighting in relation to JB arriving at the scene?

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Re: Unidentified Male, seen at Whf, PC Myall, at 3.45am...
« Reply #102 on: March 18, 2011, 10:10:AM »
Not only does the MIP give details of the 3.45am sighting, by PC Myall, but the entry is dated, 7th August 1985...

Where does it detail '7th August 1985' on what has been posted on this thread?

I am sorry if I have missed it so please point it out.
... I am not trying to catch you, or anyone out, by not posting the document in question, I am unable to post it at the moment, until after CCRC makes its final decision in a few weeks time. However, what I can say, is that the individual entries in the MIP, are all dated, and timed events.,

In my opinion, if you are not prepared to post the evidence in support of a statement then it is unfair on all in a discussion forum........... It becomes a bit like playing poker with a banker who only allows each player 2 cards from the outset.

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Re: Unidentified Male, seen at Whf, PC Myall, at 3.45am...
« Reply #103 on: March 18, 2011, 10:13:AM »
Is this sighting in relation to the sighting of someone at the window?

Is this sighting in relation to JB arriving at the scene?

You mean arriving at White House Farm, which he was requested to do as a result of his telephone call to the Police, before he identifies himself...........


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Re: Unidentified Male, seen at Whf, PC Myall, at 3.45am...
« Reply #104 on: March 18, 2011, 10:28:AM »
Is this sighting in relation to the sighting of someone at the window?

Is this sighting in relation to JB arriving at the scene?

You mean arriving at White House Farm, which he was requested to do as a result of his telephone call to the Police, before he identifies himself...........

Yes.

WHF is unlit, so any unidentified male would have to be a few feet away to be given a sex.