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Re: The Noble Cause Framing Theory
« Reply #615 on: May 07, 2014, 08:11:PM »
Alias one of my favourite singers Boy George does not drive a tractor but does other daft stuff ;D

I like him too! My husband says I have a bad taste, LOL, but I like him, can´t help it!  ;D He can wear whatever he likes!

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« Reply #616 on: May 07, 2014, 08:16:PM »
8h ok Alias not exactly full fairy outfit but that's maybe how I imag7ned him being dressed  :D He was young!!! I agree ..... so what if he did but sounds a little unlikely to me :-\

Barbara Wilson says, "various apparel" - whatever that means, could be anything; and makeup - it was fairly typical of the eighties that guys wore a lot of makeup and coloured their hair. Nothing awful in that, but I can see that it would have stood out in a rural village, especially among the older generation.

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Re: The Noble Cause Framing Theory
« Reply #617 on: May 07, 2014, 08:18:PM »
Maggie we started to wear trousers suits and I loved wearing a tie and that was OK I also wore braces nobody minded at all so why not a male wear a dress and  makeup ;D ;D ;D ;D

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« Reply #618 on: May 07, 2014, 08:19:PM »
Alias especially driving a tractor ;D ;D ;D

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Re: The Noble Cause Framing Theory
« Reply #619 on: May 07, 2014, 08:20:PM »
Barbara Wilson says, "various apparel" - whatever that means, could be anything; and makeup - it was fairly typical of the eighties that guys wore a lot of makeup and coloured their hair. Nothing awful in that, but I can see that it would have stood out in a rural village, especially among the older generation.



And heads in the local pub would most definitely have turned.

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Re: The Noble Cause Framing Theory
« Reply #620 on: May 07, 2014, 08:23:PM »
I like him too! My husband says I have a bad taste, LOL, but I like him, can´t help it!  ;D He can wear whatever he likes!
Yeh I like Boy George .... loved his plaits back in the day!!  ;D

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Re: The Noble Cause Framing Theory
« Reply #621 on: May 07, 2014, 08:26:PM »
They all made a big song and dance about Jeremy having Brett Collins as a friend.  It was a " hanging offence " in those days.  ;D  Jeremy probably thought it was cool ! Awareness of these things had only just really come about in the early 80's where you had the publicity of certain pop stars to whom a lot of the youngsters used to emulate. 

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Re: The Noble Cause Framing Theory
« Reply #622 on: May 07, 2014, 08:29:PM »
Barbara Wilson says, "various apparel" - whatever that means, could be anything; and makeup - it was fairly typical of the eighties that guys wore a lot of makeup and coloured their hair. Nothing awful in that, but I can see that it would have stood out in a rural village, especially among the older generation.
Yes I suppose they were shocked but that is the point isn't it, sounds like fun to me  :D
AE went on about him dying his hair as if he had 'murderer dyed in red across the fringe but she was old before her time, possibly because of her controlling father, poor Ann. :-\
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Re: The Noble Cause Framing Theory
« Reply #623 on: May 07, 2014, 08:34:PM »
They all made a big song and dance about Jeremy having Brett Collins as a friend.  It was a " hanging offence " in those days.  ;D  Jeremy probably thought it was cool ! Awareness of these things had only just really come about in the early 80's where you had the publicity of certain pop stars to whom a lot of the youngsters used to emulate.
For all their supposed stuffiness Jeremy took Brett to meet June and Nevill ......  I suppose he may have done that for a laugh when you think about it?

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Re: The Noble Cause Framing Theory
« Reply #624 on: May 07, 2014, 08:38:PM »
Yes I suppose they were shocked but that is the point isn't it, I would have loved it  :D
AE went on about him dying his hair as if he had 'murderer dyed in red across the fringe but she was old before her time, possibly because of her controlling father, poor Ann. :-\

I think it is strange that Colin is taken in by those "transvestite" allegations made by the family. I seriously don´t think that Jeremy went around in Goldhanger or sat on his tractor dressed as a woman (!!) They may have drawn a paralell between his makeup and whatever eighties clothes he wore and tranvestism, but wouldn´t Colin, a big city boy who attended clubs in London not have seen through that?
Did he deliberately paint a bad picture of Jeremy here?
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Re: The Noble Cause Framing Theory
« Reply #625 on: May 07, 2014, 08:38:PM »
For all their supposed stuffiness Jeremy took Brett to meet June and Nevill ......  I suppose he may have done that for a laugh when you think about it?




It sounds like it,Maggie. ;D ;D  I'd love to have seen their faces. Though I bet he was on his best behaviour. ;D

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Re: The Noble Cause Framing Theory
« Reply #626 on: May 07, 2014, 08:41:PM »



It sounds like it,Maggie. ;D ;D  I'd love to have seen their faces. Though I bet he was on his best behaviour. ;D

They probably didn´t even know what gay was about and thought, what a polite, nice looking young man!  ;D
I don´t know how June and Nevill perceived Brett! Perhaps they liked him and disliked Julie (we know that), and that made Julie furiously jealous of Brett.
I have never seen it mentioned anywhere that they disliked Brett.

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Re: The Noble Cause Framing Theory
« Reply #627 on: May 07, 2014, 08:49:PM »
I think it is strange that Colin is taken in by those "transvestite" allegations made by the family. I seriously don´t think that Jeremy went around in Goldhanger or sat on his tractor dressed as a woman (!!) They may have drawn a paralell between his makeup and whatever eighties clothes he wore and tranvestism, but wouldn´t Colin, a big city boy who attended clubs in London not have seen through that?
Did he deliberately paint a bad picture of Jeremy here?
I always get the feeling Colin preferred to believe Jeremy was the murderer as that was easier (if that is possible) than believing Sheila killed his boys.

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Re: The Noble Cause Framing Theory
« Reply #628 on: May 07, 2014, 08:53:PM »
I always get the feeling Colin preferred to believe Jeremy was the murderer as that was easier (if that is possible) than believing Sheila killed his boys.

Yes - it would absolve him of any feelings of guilt for having left the boys with Sheila. That makes a lot of sense, and is even understandable. I can´t imagine how horrible this must have been for him.

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Re: The Noble Cause Framing Theory
« Reply #629 on: May 07, 2014, 08:55:PM »
They probably didn´t even know what gay was about and thought, what a polite, nice looking young man!  ;D
I don´t know how June and Nevill perceived Brett! Perhaps they liked him and disliked Julie (we know that), and that made Julie furiously jealous of Brett.
I have never seen it mentioned anywhere that they disliked Brett.
Neither have I Alias but again although called a 'harlot' by June we know Julie spent time at the farm and read bedtime stories to the twins but maybe she was and felt tolerated as opposed to Brett who may have been obviously liked. There's little doubt Julie was jealous of Brett.