The Noble Cause Framing Theory

[Caroline]

What I quoted is evidence which is backed by documentation from the Jeremy Bamber site.

Maybe the last supper page relates to something else? However, the consensus is that it was open at page 656 and 657. which contain Psalms 51 - 55. It's mentioned in the 2002 appeal doc

"408. The pages on which the heavy staining appears in these photographs are pages including part or all of Psalms 51-55. It is said that these pages are significant and represented "Sheila Caffell's suicide note". A number of passages are highlighted and it will suffice if we give one example, taken from verse 14 of Psalm 51:

"Save me from blood guiltiness O God…" 

http://www.homepage-link.to/justice/judgements/Bamber/index.html

[lookout]

 I wonder why,,or what the object was to use passages out of two separate Bibles,,each referring to the same set of circumstances.

[Alias]

I wonder why,,or what the object was to use passages out of two separate Bibles,,each referring to the same set of circumstances.

I don´t think that was the case?

[lookout]

I don´t think that was the case?

There are clearly two Bibles,,each one open at pages which were relevant to what had happened that night.One was obviously Junes' and the other Sheilas' I'm taking it that Junes was the one with the Psalms in it at the open page,,and the other would have been Sheilas'.
The reason again for the confusion is that very little has been said or done about the bibles,,particularly the blood testing and fingerprints,,both which I'd read about belonged mainly to June.

[lookout]

Presumably,,however the Bible was found,,either on Sheilas' chest or by her side,,at appx 8am,,the blood on those pages was still found to be wet,,and even dripping from the pages when someone moved it,,,so how would this happen if Jeremy had murdered everyone by 3am ?

[lookout]

 Oh what a tangled web we weave
When first we practise to deceive.

[Caroline]

There are clearly two Bibles,,each one open at pages which were relevant to what had happened that night.One was obviously Junes' and the other Sheilas' I'm taking it that Junes was the one with the Psalms in it at the open page,,and the other would have been Sheilas'.
The reason again for the confusion is that very little has been said or done about the bibles,,particularly the blood testing and fingerprints,,both which I'd read about belonged mainly to June.

There was only one open bible Lookout, the one next to Sheila which was open at Psalms 51-55. There were lots of June's fingerprints because it was her bible. There was another bible but wasn't open at any particular page.

[lookout]

  So,,the other Bible must have just been bookmarked at the page that I previously quoted. I did realise that there was no blood on that one,,but it must have been in the same bedroom perhaps to have been seen and to also have had the passages in sync with the bloodied one,,as each refer to the evening in question.

[Caroline]

  So,,the other Bible must have just been bookmarked at the page that I previously quoted. I did realise that there was no blood on that one,,but it must have been in the same bedroom perhaps to have been seen and to also have had the passages in sync with the bloodied one,,as each refer to the evening in question.

Hi Lookout, the passage (John 14:34) relates to the note found inside the bible found next to Sheila not to another bible. It's on the OS here http://www.jeremy-bamber.co.uk/the-bloodied-bible

[lookout]

Hi Lookout, the passage (John 14:34) relates to the note found inside the bible found next to Sheila not to another bible. It's on the OS here http://www.jeremy-bamber.co.uk/the-bloodied-bible

Ah,,that's where I've got the Bible and note mixed up. I looked up the passage from John and saw the connection to The Last Supper,,,Feet Washing,,the Devil,,Judas,( old uncle tom cobley,etc etc ) I was thinking of it being another Bible.

[Caroline]

Ah,,that's where I've got the Bible and note mixed up. I looked up the passage from John and saw the connection to The Last Supper,,,Feet Washing,,the Devil,,Judas,( old uncle tom cobley,etc etc ) I was thinking of it being another Bible.

yes, it's the one sticking out from the pages of the up-turned bible next to Sheila, you can just see it in the picture below.

[lookout]

That's what I'd picked up on,,to find that verse. Now I know where I'm at,,so that's that bit of confusion out of the way.

[Caroline]

That's what I'd picked up on,,to find that verse. Now I know where I'm at,,so that's that bit of confusion out of the way.

  X

[lookout]

I suppose you'll be getting all geared up for your " date ".

[Caroline]

I suppose you'll be getting all geared up for your " date ".

Ha, ha!! Nah, not tonight - gonna watch some telly then go to bed BUT there may be love notes for me in the morning??  XX