Jeremys second phone call to Julie:

[Neil]

Have you never lied.

Or committed a minor, victimless crime when young ? Yes claiming you're cheque book has been stolen is victimless. It was also Susans cheque book, suggesting she was the main force.

You haven't asked if anyone has ever been guilty of cashing in on the death of two six year old boys!

Just to make it clear, I am coming at this from a completely objective point of view.  Julie may very well have been telling the truth, but how can you be sure, when her own character is so flawed?  It makes her evidence totally unreliable.

Her behaviour, in selling her story would have been disgusting enough, if she'd done it years after the event, but to do it mid enquiry, just weeks after......well, words fail me.

[Caroline]

Didn´t they tell the bank that Susan´s cheque book had been stolen - and then went on a buying spree with that exact cheque book? Would the bank have had to cover the losses the stores suffered from the thefts? If so, the bank was the victim.
There are no victimless crimes.

That's exactly it Alias ...... in a nutshell

[Adam]

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=289.0


Julies statement on the bank fraud.

It says she had already told the police about the caravan break in. So I suspect she had given a comprehensive interview.

She knew that Susan was being interviewed in another room & told the police about the cheque book fraud.

Suspect Julie did not bother intially mentioning the cheque book fraud,  as it was nothing to do with the case. The caravan break in involved Jeremy so was mentioned.

[Jane]

You haven't asked if anyone has ever been guilty of cashing in on the death of two six year old boys!

Just to make it clear, I am coming at this from a completely objective point of view.  Julie may very well have been telling the truth, but how can you be sure, when her own character is so flawed?  It makes her evidence totally unreliable.

Her behaviour, in selling her story would have been disgusting enough, if she'd done it years after the event, but to do it mid enquiry, just weeks after......well, words fail me.

Neil, I have previously asked him how proud he would have been of Julie had she been his daughter but like numerous other question which have been put to him, he hasn't replied. Had she been my daughter I may have had to fight the urge to leave the country after seeing her sex life splashed across the tabloids along with her thighs.

[Caroline]

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=289.0


Julies statement on the bank fraud.

It says she had already told the police about the caravan break in. She knew that Susan was being interviewed in another room & told the police about the cheque book fraud.

Suspect Julie did not bother intially mentioning the cheque book fraud,  as it was nothing to do with the case. The caravan break in involved Jeremy so was mentioned.

I don't care what Julie says and given that her honesty is in question, why would you even mention her statement? However, read the following and will post another statement from the acting bank manager at the time - Mr Dovey who was an independent witness with NO REASON to lie.

[Adam]

Neil, I have previously asked him how proud he would have been of Julie had she been his daughter but like numerous other question which have been put to him, he hasn't replied. Had she been my daughter I may have had to fight the urge to leave the country after seeing her sex life splashed across the tabloids along with her thighs.

I answer all posts.

I would be proud of Julie. Going to the police & telling the truth. As well as standing up in court.

Hang on. I would have already disowned her after Susans major fraud.

[Caroline]

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[Adam]

I was always under the impression the police knew about the major bank fraud & approached Julie.

The police blackmailed Julie into saying Jeremy did it. Threatening her with bank fraud charges.

But it seems she had already told the police everything.

Interesting.

[Neil]

I answer all posts.

I would be proud of Julie. Going to the police & telling the truth. As well as standing up in court.

Hang on. I would have already disowned her after Susans major fraud.

And what would you have said, about her cashing in on the death of two young boys?

[Caroline]

Mr Dovey contradicts MOST of Julie's statement where she talks about her and Susan going to the bank alone and of their own free will because they felt guilty!! Mr Dovey had no reason to lie, he wasn't connected to anyone involved in the case.

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,1165.0.html

[Adam]

You haven't asked if anyone has ever been guilty of cashing in on the death of two six year old boys!

Just to make it clear, I am coming at this from a completely objective point of view.  Julie may very well have been telling the truth, but how can you be sure, when her own character is so flawed?  It makes her evidence totally unreliable.

Her behaviour, in selling her story would have been disgusting enough, if she'd done it years after the event, but to do it mid enquiry, just weeks after......well, words fail me.

Flawed character ? No 20 year is perfect. It was not her fault Jeremy rang her at 3.00am.

Susan Battersby committed minor fraud with her own cheque book. And.

[Caroline]

I was always under the impression the police knew about the major bank fraud & approached Julie.

The police blackmailed Julie into saying Jeremy did it. Threatening her with bank fraud charges.

But it seems she had already told the police everything.

Interesting.

What on earth are you talking about? You're making this up as you go along. It's not interesting, it's just bad fiction!

[Jane]

I answer all posts.

I would be proud of Julie. Going to the police & telling the truth. As well as standing up in court.

Hang on. I would have already disowned her after Susans major fraud.

Well, I imagine that tells us all we need to know of your character. The word which comes to mind is UNPRINCIPLED.

[Caroline]

Flawed character ? No 20 year is perfect. It was not her fault Jeremy rang her at 3.00am.

Susan Battersby committed minor fraud with her own cheque book. And.

There is something flawed and it's your powers (or lack) of reasoning.

[Adam]

Mr Dovey contradicts MOST of Julie's statement where she talks about her and Susan going to the bank alone and of their own free will because they felt guilty!! Mr Dovey had no reason to lie, he wasn't connected to anyone involved in the case.

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,1165.0.html

For me the main issue is Julie had already told the police Jeremy did it before mentioning the bank fraud. She had also confessed about the caravan break in. So was prepared to be charged.

She was not blackmailed into confessing.

The bank fraud is neither here or there.