What REALLY Convinces You That Jeremy Is Innocent/Guilty?

[maggie]

Bamber, however, still has all the cunning and ingenuity he displayed in his planning of the crime. Even after all these years, from inside a maximum security prison he has managed to construct a new credibility for himself, with his claims of innocence reaching an increasingly sympathetic audience.

There is, though, no hope left for him. Even if, somehow, the case were to be referred to appeal, and even if the convictions were quashed, it could still be sent back for re-trial. Although much evidence has been destroyed, much still survives and many witnesses are still alive.

From respected journalist Bob Woffinden. Who Graheme not surprisingly also does not believe.

What about resected Guardian reporter Eric Allison who has always supported Jeremy Bamber and never wavered. 
Bob Woffinden used to support JB until one day he declared he had new evidence and changed his tune.  The new 'evidence' was the ridiculous rubbish about a wet suit and some suggestion the JB moved the phones.  It all seemed very much trumped up evidence and actually very strange behaviour by someone who had a fair reputation as a journalist until that time imo.

[Aunt Agatha]

From respected journalist Bob Woffinden?

Please do me a favour!

This is the guy who put pen to paper and into the public arena a belief of his:  that Jeremy wore a wet suit to commit the crimes.

The wet suit was hand delivered to me by the Police, no doubt after it was forensically tested as it was taken away from the crime scene by the Police. They held it for a few years before it came to me.  The wet suit played no part at all in the killings that night.

[nugnug]

look up bob wolfindon on the internet and see if anybody respects him.

most people seem to think hes cunt.

[lookout]

You won't see any of these so-called " respected " people for dust when Jeremy is finally released.

[nugnug]

well if you have to put the word respected in front of someones name it cant be true.

[lookout]

well if you have to put the word respected in front of someones name it cant be true.

That's right,nugs. A lot of " respected " people have fallen by the wayside.

[Jane]

look up bob wolfindon on the internet and see if anybody respects him.

most people seem to think hes cunt.

Say it how it is, eh Nugs

[lookout]

Didn't see that.

[grahameb]

Woofwoof wrote a lot in defence of Jeremy. But what he is saying now in effect is that all that he has written before is complete dross.
So what is there to inspire confidence in what he has to say to us nowadays about the case? Aman who is prone to change his mind at a whim.

[nugnug]

this isnt the first time hes done it he did the same with jonathen king.

[Mason Doyle]

Not sure why lambasting Bob Woffinden, or attacking his credibility has anything to do with what really happened at WHF? The bloke came up with his opinion, and unlike many on here, he had the balls to put it in print and put his name to it.  Has it made a difference to Jeremy Bamber's case? Nope! Has it kept the case in the public eye? Yep, and I'm sure Jeremy knows and appreciates the value in that. 

If you don't agree with what he has done, rather than attack him, do something positive about it, write up your own theory and put your real identity and make it easy to contact yourself, as he has.  Far better to do that than slate and destroy someones integrity for having an opinion whilst hiding behind a computer screen.  I know Bob Woffinden, he's a decent guy, I'll stand up beside him and be counted, he doesn't deserve any of this because he's got an opinion that differs from the bulk on here. I thought this was a fair place for debate, I was clearly wrong.

[Jane]

Not sure why lambasting Bob Woffinden, or attacking his credibility has anything to do with what really happened at WHF? The bloke came up with his opinion, and unlike many on here, he had the balls to put it in print and put his name to it.  Has it made a difference to Jeremy Bamber's case? Nope! Has it kept the case in the public eye? Yep, and I'm sure Jeremy knows and appreciates the value in that. 

If you don't agree with what he has done, rather than attack him, do something positive about it, write up your own theory and put your real identity and make it easy to contact yourself, as he has.  Far better to do that than slate and destroy someones integrity for having an opinion whilst hiding behind a computer screen.  I know Bob Woffinden, he's a decent guy, I'll stand up beside him and be counted, he doesn't deserve any of this because he's got an opinion that differs from the bulk on here. I thought this was a fair place for debate, I was clearly wrong.

MD Hello Forgive me, but perhaps that you know Bob Woffinden makes a difference. I can hear that you're supportive of him. I think many here are equally supportive of Jeremy and perhaps seek to protect him in the same way that you are being protective of BW. I don't know if Jeremy EVER fitted your description of Bob, ie,  "a decent guy" I have the feeling that he may have been everything I find obnoxious in a male but it doesn't necessarily make him guilty of murder so I try to keep a balanced view.

[Aunt Agatha]

Not sure why lambasting Bob Woffinden, or attacking his credibility has anything to do with what really happened at WHF? The bloke came up with his opinion, and unlike many on here, he had the balls to put it in print and put his name to it.  Has it made a difference to Jeremy Bamber's case? Nope! Has it kept the case in the public eye? Yep, and I'm sure Jeremy knows and appreciates the value in that. 

If you don't agree with what he has done, rather than attack him, do something positive about it, write up your own theory and put your real identity and make it easy to contact yourself, as he has.  Far better to do that than slate and destroy someones integrity for having an opinion whilst hiding behind a computer screen.  I know Bob Woffinden, he's a decent guy, I'll stand up beside him and be counted, he doesn't deserve any of this because he's got an opinion that differs from the bulk on here. I thought this was a fair place for debate, I was clearly wrong.

I sincerely respect your views....and other people's.

However, my post was in regard to the fact he failed (as a journalist) in my opinion, to do his research regarding the wet suit before printing it before all and sundry.

I think his comments may have brought more attention to himself than Jeremy.

[grahameb]

Not sure why lambasting Bob Woffinden, or attacking his credibility has anything to do with what really happened at WHF? The bloke came up with his opinion, and unlike many on here, he had the balls to put it in print and put his name to it.  Has it made a difference to Jeremy Bamber's case? Nope! Has it kept the case in the public eye? Yep, and I'm sure Jeremy knows and appreciates the value in that. 

If you don't agree with what he has done, rather than attack him, do something positive about it, write up your own theory and put your real identity and make it easy to contact yourself, as he has.  Far better to do that than slate and destroy someones integrity for having an opinion whilst hiding behind a computer screen.  I know Bob Woffinden, he's a decent guy, I'll stand up beside him and be counted, he doesn't deserve any of this because he's got an opinion that differs from the bulk on here. I thought this was a fair place for debate, I was clearly wrong.

I'm not attacking him I'm just giving my opinion as to why I don't respect him. Still. I suppose he had one thing in his favour. We all know his real name.

[Alias]

I have not read any post on this topic however my assurances of his innocence came from having met him.

I have stated this many times before.  Unless he is one amazing and patient actor.....I do believe he had no  idea what exactly happened inside White House Farm that night.

Together we sat for years....based on the information we had back then, trying desperately to fathom out what the hell really happened.  We went round in circles......if he had taken part in the shootings I am certain he would have let slip or somehow revealed that the information we were looking into was a pack of lies.....that it was not the truthful events of that night.....but he did not.

The understanding we have today, is completely different from the understanding we had then.....had he been involved he would have led me or others to look further.....but he couldn't, because he did not know in what direction to look either.

Sad....very sad!!

Thanks for that, AA. It is interesting to hear this - as it is always interesting to read your posts, since you have first hand knowledge of the person, Jeremy Bamber.
You mention something that has entered my mind from time to time: that Jeremy seems to be in the dark about what happened that night and is as puzzled as the rest of us as to what really took place.
I think we (mostly Jeremy!) desperately need to see all the material held under PII. We don´t know the whole case, something is clearly missing from the equation.
We also need a report on what physical evidence was destroyed in 1996 - each and every item accounted for. Who made the order and who carried it out - it was unlawful. Why was there no consequences for the people involved in this?